Great comment Ron
I have said many times I think Lloyd builds a good motor and HAVE NEVER COMPLAINED ABOUT THE PRODUCT, I think that if he brushed up on the front office communications and just spit out the truth he would not be under fire at all.
I am 53 years old had 4 years in the military, 3 years working for someone else, the rest of the time I have been in business for myself in one shape or another, I have a Doctor's degree in dealing with people from the
school of hard knocks 
, these issues that we have discussed should be positive for Lloyd and he can expand from that and it's good for us as a group to be informed but do not want to put false information regarding craftsmanship that would hurt this man and his company. He delivered what I ordered but not the time frame stated. By looking at my motor they put a lot of quality time in porting and assembly, this itself is an attribute to him, the ironic part is all of this takes time and 8 weeks is a short order for that type of craftsmanship when in a production mode.