The second ammendment's intent wasn't hunting. Shall not infringe says it all.
...at least for anyone who comprehends English. :smug2:
The second ammendment's intent wasn't hunting. Shall not infringe says it all.
^^^ Elitist crapola.
'Ever noticed, no matter what the topic, you consistently label as "less educated" anyone who holds an opinion opposing yours...when, in reality, 'less indoctrinated' would be far more accurate?
Your implied position that individuals with higher educations are somehow inherently wiser than those without (thus, their opinions more valid) is at odds with that of Ralph Waldo Emerson who said: "We are shut up in schools and college recitation rooms for ten or fifteen years, and come out at last with a bellyful of words and do not know a thing."
If indeed, "gun ownership decreases with increases in education level", that very fact alone would prove Emerson right.
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...you don't have to be a psychiatrist to diagnose the Emerson quote as a classic case of over-compensation.
But statistics don't lie.
...or to dismiss 'out of hand' the inherent truth contained therein regardless.
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As John McEnroe used to say, you CANNOT be serious!!!!!!!!!!!
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics."
- British Prime Minister Benjamin Disraeli (supposedly)
Gun stats rank amongst the most easily manipulated/corrupted. (Garbage in...garbage out.)
Ahh, so gun owners are "less educated". The obvious implication here is that if one is less educated they must be stupid or somehow less intelligent and, of course, only stupid people would own a gun. I certainly have more education than you and likely more than anyone on this board and I would never be so arrogant to assume that makes me smarter than anyone. And yes, I own a gun. So there.
Oh, and CA is bleeding a lot of it's population to TX. In fact, it's one of the few states that is steadily losing population. Remarkable when you consider it has fantastic weather and is probably the prettiest state overall in the country. Wonder why that is.....
Do you disagree with the amount of gun deaths per state or the population figures per state. .
I could say that liberal's, are as a group, a bunch of F'ing idiots. And believe me I well know the difference between California and Texas. That's why I moved to Texas to get away from the F'ing idiots................but I won't.................... in the spirt of decorum.
Come on, TRY and provide some intelligent incite. Offer information that has the potential to help someone who isn't so frozen in their position that nothing will change their minds......think.
Ahh, so gun owners are "less educated". The obvious implication here is that if one is less educated they must be stupid or somehow less intelligent and, of course, only stupid people would own a gun. I certainly have more education than you and likely more than anyone on this board and I would never be so arrogant to assume that makes me smarter than anyone. And yes, I own a gun. So there.
Oh, and CA is bleeding a lot of it's population to TX. In fact, it's one of the few states that is steadily losing population. Remarkable when you consider it has fantastic weather and is probably the prettiest state overall in the country. Wonder why that is.....
Can you imagine busting into a room that had a guy in it with a machine gun that had just shot a full auto burst through the door you need to go thought and hit a security guard? Those cops knew that their vests would have almost no effect against rife ammunition, yet in they went.
Okaaaay...here's my challenge to all the anti-gun, "we need more GUN laws" folks :
Write out - word-for-word - your specific recommendation for a gun law that would, if enacted, end all gun crime...a law that would put so much fear in the hearts of terrorists, gangbangers, dope dealers, and LOONS (and/or whatever other additional brand of criminals you'd care to mention) that they wouldn't even dare THINK ABOUT violating it - let alone DO so (like they've violated every other gun law that's been passed to date). There has to be a way to word such a law 'cause y'all keep INSISTING "more gun laws" will stop gun crime...right?
If you CAN'T come up with the wording for the aforementioned law - then just ADMIT that no single law or combination of laws HAS EVER - AND WILL NEVER - change the behavior of criminals/loons and quit your sanctimonious insistence that "more GUN laws" are the answer to gun crime. DECADES OF PASSING MORE AND MORE "GUN LAWS" has proven conclusively it's just a 'feel good' exercise...and that the only thing passing YET ANOTHER "gun law" does is make it possible for some full-of-themselves politicians to puff out their chests and proclaim to the world they DID SOMETHING about gun crime...it does NOT change the behavior of criminals.
What worthwhile purpose is served by further restricting/disarming law-abiding people (unconstitutionally 99% of the time, BTW)? THEY aren't the problem. THEY obey the country's laws. Why screw with them??? What does that accomplish???
^^^ I see some above are STILL insisting more GUN CONTROL laws be adopted here in the USA.
The USA is NOT Australia...or Japan...or the U.K. Here in the U.S., our citizens have the R-I-G-H-T to own and carry firearms. PERIOD. Our constitution PROHIBITS the government from passing the very laws many of y'all are, by implication, insisting we OUGHT to adopt...and the vast majority of the "gun control laws" we currently DO have on the books are 100% UNconstitutional as it is! (How the devil any court ANYWHERE along the U.S. judicial chain could, thru "i-n-t-e-r-p-r-e-t-a-t-i-o-n", find ANY OF THEM constitutional is totally beyond me. They clearly AREN'T.)
So, bearing the above in mind...(sigh)...one MORE time:
To this day, NO ONE to whom I've issued that challenge (either face-to-face or on the 'net) has been able to meet it. Nobody. And there's a darned good REASON for that - IT CANNOT BE DONE. So, what SENSE is there in passing more gun laws that everybody and his cousin already KNOWS won't work any better than the 50 bazillion gun laws we already HAVE???
Those who keep calling for more gun laws are, at best, just whistling past the graveyard.
Nick, I'm aware of all the statistics and examples of gun laws in other countries etc. etc., as I'm sure Howard and others are as well. The most significant thing you said was "I am not American,you have the right to tell me what happens in your country is your own business". Most Americans and nearly all gun owners not only feel that way but would likely say it to your face.
Actually Larry the problem is not the inability to write a law that will work...
...because as you say any law you would immediately declare unconstitutional, and there would be a cultural lack of willingness in the USA to uphold and implement any such law.
An example I have seen
“A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms when serving in the Militia (!!!) shall not be infringed.”
...why it that you would not contemplate any gun control laws because in your opinion they don’t stop those who want to get hold of guns doing so, but you don’t appear to apply the same rule to other laws that have the same result, drug laws for example?
Why is it that some on here have expressed the opinion...that many in the US should not be allowed to vote as they do not have the required intellect, but you are OK with those same people wondering around with guns if they desire to.
It has been said these debates are useless as it will not change anyone opinion, but people’s opinions do change especially those that have been directly affected by mass shootings. I wonder what the parents, sisters, brothers, aunties, uncles, grandparents and friends of mass shooting victims response would be, if you were to stand in front of them and say “I am very sorry for your tragic loss, but still believe we have the right to bear arms and any law that bought in to attempt to prevent your loved ones from being murdered is unconstitutional".
We used to have the right to carry guns in the UK’ as I have said we changed that law after Dunblane and it worked.
I count myself so lucky I live in the UK...
...if we had your 2nd amendment I am confident being a democracy it would have been changed to allow the above to take place and work.
...Talking to a very right wing friend and work colleague about US guns this morning, turned out he used to regularly go to a shooting club and owned a Smith & Wesson hand gun. He was very upset at giving it up when the new laws following Dunblane came in, now seeing what has happened over the same time in the US he is glad he did.
...In summary it is hard to keep track on what your argument is, it was in the past you have to be able to carry arms to defend yourself.
...Many carried arms in Las Vegas what good did that do.
...It is that gun control does not work as the bad guys can get hold of guns it they want to. If so way have any laws where this is the same, drug laws for example. It is that gun control laws are unconstitutional so it appears even if they did work as in the UK it would be unconstitutional to bring them in...... REALLY!!!!
...almost to the point of wishing that one day someone is standing in front of you asking how do you feel about the right to bear arms now one of your loved ones has been murdered by a citizen who took up that right because it would be unconstitutional to try and stop it happening.