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Old 04-22-03, 10:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Greetings All,

Due to a recent situation involving allegations of lying, mis-representation, internet abuse, forum abuse, and potential lawsuits against me and/or the forum I feel it necessary to post the disclaimer on the forum and review it with everyone.

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I know that you probably forgot about this because you just clicked "okay" to get registered as quickly as possible. However, what this says in a nutshell is I'm not responsible for any comments you make on this board, you are, and as such you will not post defamatory, abusive, etc. info on the forum. In other words, you will play fair on the forum and respect everyone's right to an opinion, etc., etc., etc. You can read, or else you would not be here.

Now, the problem we have is that one party, Spencer Marsh, feels he has been wronged by David Morton in posting information about the liquidation of GTD Supercars.

I don't know squat about the entire issue, and frankly, don't care. I don't know Spencer or David nor do I know their motives. I don't want to. All I want to do is keep the peace on the forum.

Therefore, I am going to delete the post titled GTD by David Morton on March 5th. If David feels the post is accurate, he can post it again and then field responses. But I will not have anything to do with it when and if it comes up again. That is for the members to sort out among themselves.

I will do the best I can to remain moderator of this forum and "keep the peace". I am reasonably well versed with the net and with the help of my wife (Julie Earp, Ph.D.) and her research partner (David Balmer, Ph.D, J.D.), both of whom are established leaders for US internet law and security, I am not worried about litigation targeted at me here in the US (the UK is quite a bit different). But, I am worried about litigation targeted at users and keeping the peace on the forum so just let me tell you - make sure your information is factual before you post unless it is an opinion based discussion.

Take care,
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Old 04-22-03, 11:52 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Ron,

Thanks. Your efforts are noble and appreciated.

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Old 04-23-03, 04:14 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Ron,
Thank you for your posting. I have been in discussion with Spencer Marsh via various emails and he has been open and frank in those discussions. In those emails he agreed to come on this site and talk about his problems whilst at GTD (supercars).
Until then, I will unreservedly withdraw any and all of the allegations I have made about Spencer Marsh and his father and I look forward to Spencer Marsh explaining what went on with GTD Supercars, and especially the dealings with Clyde in New Zealand ( and why Clyde's order was short shipped, and furthermore Clyde also had to pay for the freight costs again to have the consigment released). Spencer Marsh you have the chair on this topic. Over to you.
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To the top, I will keep placing it there for a few days at a minimum.

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Ron-

Thanks for taking the time to re-iterate the by-laws of this forum. I think it is a great place to share information on building, modifying, tuning, etc., a GT40. I would like to see it kept that way, and not infuse it with finger-pointing, politics or religion.

You and the moderators have done an excellent job. And the information exchange is second to none.

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Ron,

Being a forum administrator is a tough (and thankless)job. We tend to loose sight of the effort it takes while enjoying the fruits of your labor. You've done a stellar job, and my hat's off to you. Thanks!

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My Statement will be in place hopefully by the end of the week. It needs to be checked first

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Thank you Ron, for your efforts and time. Keep up the good work.

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Thanks for the support folks. This is one aspect of the job I don't like, dealing with these disputes that really don't have much at all to do with the forum other than use my time and stir things up.

I do hope that people realize that they are responsible for what they do on the forum, freedom of speech is indeed in effect, and if you have something to dispute with someone then try to do it in a professional fashion.

I'm certain that we'll have disagreements on the forum from time to time. That is what it is for. But I'm not here to solve them for you one way or the other. How can I? I'd be choosing sides, something that I will not do.

I noticed that Spencer posted information about GTD Supercars in another thread, but I'm afraid it really didn't shed any light on any doings like some of you might have hoped. Maybe he'll clear things up with some of the allegations that people have made, I've urged him to and I hope he does. But, I'll not be involved with it any longer.

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