Original gt40 in Misano..

[I LOVE GT40- Paolo]

and..of course i need YOUR opinion about this car.
It was owned by Swiss team,is the gt40 racing the GTC championship this year.
I am not so convinced by the cutted doors as if to obtain a targa car.
Also the body seems a Gulf wide one.
Noway for me to take a picture of the chassis number(isnt inside engine bay in originals?).Tell me your idea.
I tried take pictures of the chassis.
The door hinges are as in the replicas i've seen in le mans (so not so hard for me to open it now..eheh.. )

They were Swiss, Franco Sbarro is swiss...

[roy snook]

That is not an original tub, looks like a Safir though

[Gary Kadrmas]

Roy,

Take a look at the interior picture that shows the "turn signal stalk". I am nowhere near an expert about Safir cars, but of all the pictures I have seen on Safir cars, I have never seen one like that.....but.....who knows.

[Pete.]

The air vent under the windscreen looks like it is from a ford Laser or Gemini.

[David Morton]

Pete,
I think it is the Zodiac version, but the seat base on the Pax side is typical of just about all the Safir cars made by Henry Atherton at Adams McAll.

[Gary Kadrmas]

Compare the picture of the dash defroster grill in this thread to the picture posted by JimmyMac: Original Specification Parts

To me, they look similar. David, what do you think?

[Pantera1889]

Originally Posted by Gary Kadrmas

Roy,

Take a look at the interior picture that shows the "turn signal stalk". I am nowhere near an expert about Safir cars, but of all the pictures I have seen on Safir cars, I have never seen one like that.....but.....who knows.

From Chassis # 1137

[Pantera1889]

Also,compare the fan support.

[Gary Kadrmas]

Ron,

Thanks for the pictures and info.

That's what I like about this place......a pool of information and people willing to share.

[David Morton]

Gary,
Yes it looks identical to the picture that James published. As far as I know they were from the early Ford Zodiac. They are available from time to time here - I think even MDA might sell them ex stock. They do fetch a premium on Ebay though. Roy may also be tooling up to make some.
Ron,
That stalk looks as though it could be from any Brtish Leyland car in the 70's - typically an Austin 1100. Easy to modify to adapt to a 40 lookalike.

[Pantera1889]

Also looks just like the one in my DeTomaso Pantera.

[Pete.]

OOpps, Ford didn't make the Gemini, Holden (Chev) did

[I LOVE GT40- Paolo]

Also I noted, the internal part of the monocoque of this car (near driver seat) shows 4 holes, when..if I am not wrong..the originals had ONE big there.
The roof wasnt in metal, but fiberglass (knock knock on that..and was plastic..)
I have read in my books the first Safir car was a targa top doors one,and this is a reason more to think it is one of theme (are Safirs replicas or not?..I knew they were.. )

for Fran Hall:
Fran, some months ago u asked me some pictures of the racing italian gt40 (to show FIA guys replicas use to race,as that one did in italian "Vernasca Silver flag" Historical race in Piacenza).
I am a lazy boy..the magazines are near my scanner since 3 months, but maybe THIS car in Misano will be useful too (this one race the GTC champ..100% approved by Fia, and seems a Safir car, so a replica..)

the sn. 1137 belongs to a Mk5, right?

[JimmyMac]

David,
The stalk looks like a Ford Cortina or 120E part. These were used in the dash of the MKIII road car.
The dash vent is from a Ford Zephyr pre-facelift MKIII

[David Morton]

Thanks James,
I asked for a Zodiac grille so no wonder they produced something completely different (a squarish one I remember) in the small junk shop by LHR. The stalk looks like the Austin one as well.
We should rename you as Doctor 40.......

[Gary Kadrmas]

David.......

Wow, you are right. James has a new name......."Doctor 40"!!!!

[Ian Anderson]

That indicator stalk reminds me of the one fitted to my Mk1 Capri 1970 vintage - so it would definately be in the Ford parts bin

Ian