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15th January 2010, 07:41 PM
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| | MikeP 8 Tenths 
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| Spoiled? Here are a couple of pics from the Aotosprt show at the NEC in the UK of the CAV GTR40 and the spoiler/splitter. Does this look good or is it a wart on the nose?
My vote goes with the wart - too modern for me. It probable works well but give me a less effective but period canard every time.
What go you think?
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15th January 2010, 07:45 PM
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| | Charlie Farley Andrew 
Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: UK GT40: In Build
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| Re: Spoiled? Would look ok on a Subaru |
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15th January 2010, 09:02 PM
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| | Big-Foot Super Moderator 
Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Kenyon, MN GT40: RCR40 - #45
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| Re: Spoiled? I'll be making one similar to that for the nose of my car when it's on the track..
It will come off when not being driven at speed..
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15th January 2010, 09:11 PM
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| | spud 2 Tenths 
Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New York, USA GT40: Gardner Douglas T70
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| Re: Spoiled? undoubtedly a help, but I bet a lot of the effect could have been achieved with something a bit more subdued. |
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15th January 2010, 10:30 PM
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| | Foowowee 2 Tenths 
Join Date: May 2006 Location: Homer Glen, IL GT40: Superformance
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| Re: Spoiled? Man, I love that look, but its not for me. I can barely get my 40 out of my driveway now without scraping.
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16th January 2010, 01:36 AM
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| | Mike Drew Bronze Supporter 
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| Re: Spoiled?
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16th January 2010, 04:08 AM
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| | albanygt40 7 Tenths 
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| Re: Spoiled? I like it....alot.
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16th January 2010, 04:56 AM
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| | JIMMYMAC Lifetime Premier Supporter 
Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Scotland, GB GT40: Monocoque
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| Re: Spoiled? PISH.............
Like a kit car painted in some nail parlour. It's probably got parking sensors as well.
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16th January 2010, 05:10 AM
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| | jimbo Silver Supporter 
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| Re: Spoiled? Ugly. Butt-ugly. If it were a baby, you'd have to tie meat around its neck just to get the dogs to hang around with it.
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16th January 2010, 05:24 AM
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| | Malcolm Gold Supporter 
Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Surrey, UK GT40: GTD
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| Re: Spoiled? That kind of attachment doesn't suit a 60's styled car. I also thought the shut lines on both of these cars a bit poor for show cars.
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16th January 2010, 06:28 AM
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| | P2164 Bronze Supporter 
Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Arkansas GT40: SPF 2164 07-07
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| Re: Spoiled? Quote:
Originally Posted by Big-Foot I'll be making one similar to that for the nose of my car when it's on the track..
It will come off when not being driven at speed.. | I agree with Randy, it could be useful but not for the looks or the street driving. I think this would be a great asset on the tract or open road racing at very high speed. I tremendous amount of air goes under the car and blocking it and moving it around the sides could cause a vacuum effect. After doing the Big Bend race I was checking under my car and noticed my license plate was bent from all the air passing under the car. Defusers would be nice also if you could remove them for street use. Just my thoughts. Randy I hope to see some pictures of your set up when done.
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16th January 2010, 12:43 PM
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| | Chrissimp 2 Tenths 
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| Re: Spoiled? Completely ruins the lines of what is normally a very attractive car. If you want wings and spoilers, get a SL-C or similar.
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16th January 2010, 01:36 PM
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| | Johann Rookie 
Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: USA GT40: CAV GT
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| Re: Spoiled? Here are some better pictures of the (ugly) spoiler.
It may be not historical correct or the prettiest for the GT40, but it is extremely effective for racing. These cars race against modern cars like Porsche GT3's and Ferrari 360's in South Africa with very good results. They would not be competitive with the old original Gurney style "tabs".
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16th January 2010, 02:42 PM
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| | Pete Lifetime Premier Supporter 
Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Brisbane, Austr GT40: GT40 Australia.
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| Re: Spoiled? Quote:
Originally Posted by JIMMYMAC PISH.............
Like a kit car painted in some nail parlour. It's probably got parking sensors as well. | Hey Jimmy I've got parking sensors  and air, and cruise control.
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16th January 2010, 02:53 PM
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| | molleur Bronze Supporter 
Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Florida GT40: SL-C LS1/930LSD
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| Re: Spoiled? I like that Pete, maybe I'll install the sensors in my SL-C. Should be an easy task..
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16th January 2010, 06:12 PM
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| | MGNut 4 Tenths 
Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Tavistock,Devon GT40: Sold
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| Re: Spoiled? Hey, it's an R, meaning race? it's for effect, like not coming off the track and flying. Its mean and effective, you ain't going to go that fast on the road so no need for the spoiler. JMHO
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17th January 2010, 02:48 AM
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| | Dalton 10 tenths 
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| Re: Spoiled? I believe that front aerodynamic aids are vital for stability at high speed. But IMHO they completely ruin the front view of the GT40 that I find so appealing. |
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17th January 2010, 06:35 AM
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| | P2164 Bronze Supporter 
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| Re: Spoiled? Quote:
Originally Posted by Dalton I believe that front aerodynamic aids are vital for stability at high speed. But IMHO they completely ruin the front view of the GT40 that I find so appealing. | Amen, enough said. Off for the street, on for the race.
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17th January 2010, 09:29 AM
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| | Martin Potts 5 Tenths 
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| Re: Spoiled? If you look at the car with fresh eyes, it looks like a modern race car. Such was the advanced styling of the original, that a dressed up model can still look sharp against modern Ferraris and Porsches. You can get away with those kind of spoilers if you are not trying to pretend it is a '60s racing icon. The modern Ford GT is one of the best looking GT racers now and this CAV looks more at home with that stable than the original GT40.
If I saw this car on the track with modern machinery, I would say, wow that is cool. If I saw it at a retro event with '60s and '70s GT cars it would not look right at all.
By the sounds of it, this car was meant to be driven alongside modern stuff. And there, I think it has a place. Old silluette with modern race tuning. Fab.
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17th January 2010, 12:22 PM
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| | wydomkr 4 Tenths 
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| Re: Spoiled? Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin Potts If you look at the car with fresh eyes, it looks like a modern race car. Such was the advanced styling of the original, that a dressed up model can still look sharp against modern Ferraris and Porsches. You can get away with those kind of spoilers if you are not trying to pretend it is a '60s racing icon. The modern Ford GT is one of the best looking GT racers now and this CAV looks more at home with that stable than the original GT40.
If I saw this car on the track with modern machinery, I would say, wow that is cool. If I saw it at a retro event with '60s and '70s GT cars it would not look right at all.
By the sounds of it, this car was meant to be driven alongside modern stuff. And there, I think it has a place. Old silluette with modern race tuning. Fab.
Martin | I agree. However the first photos of the show car have the chin spoiler molded into the front hood/fenders to look like one piece. I would think that the first dip, the front would be broken. It just looks wrong to me. The CAV pictures of the preped cars, they look like bolt ons and they look right to me. I would expect to see a rear spoiler/wing too.
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