ZF Gearbox Fiasco/ Fraud / Pete Schomer

Ade

CURRENTLY BANNED
GENUINE FORD GT40
ZF 5DS-25 Type 0
Gearbox - Transmission
Gearbox No 260
In working order and selects all gears
Comes with brake discs - rotors

I can prepare and package to ship worldwide
Please get a quote for shipping from your preferred shipper
£6995
Please mail me if you have any questions

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Re: Gearbox For Sale GT40 ZF 5DS-25 Type 0

IMPORTANT NOTICE- I have been contacted by someone in the UK who saw this gearbox on both Craig's list and on EBay. He is trying to make contact with the seller called "Adrian" as the buyer never got the box and Adrian has now disappeared. I saw the EBay advert myself and was also taken in. I didn't buy it because the gearbox had inboard brake rotors, but from memory, the seller didn't live far from London. Has anyone actually bought the box, or have any other details I can forward on to either the victim or the Police please? Thanks in advance... Andrew
 

Charlie Farley

Supporter
Re: Gearbox For Sale GT40 ZF 5DS-25 Type 0

Andrew,

Seems he had a sense of humour, of the sick kind.
Notice his " choice" of sub name 'Bingo'...
 
Re: Gearbox For Sale GT40 ZF 5DS-25 Type 0

Guys

I am a victim on the gearbox in question

My contact details are as follows

Tom Shaughnessy
3528 Seagate Way suite 110
Oceanside CA 92056
(949) 378-8405
[email protected]

Any help would be appreciated

I am going to authorities shortly

Thank you in advance
 

Ade

CURRENTLY BANNED
Re: Gearbox For Sale GT40 ZF 5DS-25 Type 0

This gearbox was sold by me to one person early this year, my advert including pictures and text has been stolen and used by others both on e-bay and craigs list.
If you see this gearbox advertised anywhere it is a fake advert.
I have had threatening e-mails via ebay which have been reported to the police and e-bay, i was advised to save and ignore all threats which i have done.
If anyone is taken in by a fake advert using my photos and text it has nothing to do with me.
 

Rick Muck- Mark IV

GT40s Sponsor
Supporter
Re: Gearbox For Sale GT40 ZF 5DS-25 Type 0

ADE.

Please see rule two here and change your name to your real name. This will also help prove you are not a scammer.
 
Re: Gearbox For Sale GT40 ZF 5DS-25 Type 0

I bought the gearbox from

Pete Schömer

Tel: +44 -7875 926699

He has sent a bad refund check(bounced), claimed he couldn't wire because I didn't have an IBAN code, gearbox was in Scotland, didn't materialize, bought a replacement box in Nevada but missed it by a day, guy hasnt returned his money, Monaco grand Prix, queens jubilee, London olympics. Etc.
Can't figure how to refund my approx £8000

I will provide his IP address tommorrow

Thank you
 
Re: Gearbox For Sale GT40 ZF 5DS-25 Type 0

I bought the gearbox from

Pete Schömer

Tel: +44 -7875 926699

He has sent a bad refund check(bounced), claimed he couldn't wire because I didn't have an IBAN code, gearbox was in Scotland, didn't materialize, bought a replacement box in Nevada but missed it by a day, guy hasnt returned his money, Monaco grand Prix, queens jubilee, London olympics. Etc.
Can't figure how to refund my approx £8000

I will provide his IP address tommorrow

Thank you
 

Julian

Lifetime Supporter
Re: Gearbox For Sale GT40 ZF 5DS-25 Type 0

I bought the gearbox from

Pete Schömer

Tel: +44 -7875 926699

He has sent a bad refund check(bounced), claimed he couldn't wire because I didn't have an IBAN code, gearbox was in Scotland, didn't materialize, bought a replacement box in Nevada but missed it by a day, guy hasnt returned his money, Monaco grand Prix, queens jubilee, London olympics. Etc.
Can't figure how to refund my approx £8000

I will provide his IP address tommorrow

Thank you

Tom,

Sorry to hear of you woes, your note imples the guy in NV (me) didn't return money, (not sure if that is what you meant?) but to be clear I never received any money from Peter, in fact that is the reason I sold the box on to someone else. All I got was lots of excuses and a barrage of abuse when I told him I sold it and I had people queuing up for it at $7500.

PM me or e-mail julian_kift(at)hotmail(dot)com if you need anything from me or I can help in any way.

Julian
 
Re: Gearbox For Sale GT40 ZF 5DS-25 Type 0

*** Pete Schömer is the alleged "victim" who contacted me some weeks ago to find out about the subject of this thread, a ZF-0 box which he bought "for a client" and to which, went missing, Pete losing his/his customers money. So I'm not sure whether Pete is the "victim" or the scammer??? Pete says he's starting up a historic motorsport garage near Chichester, W Sussex, England. I also have a ZF-2 box which may or may not be for sale, but Pete was after buying it from me. I know this box exists, as it's in my garage at home. Perhaps, he's trying to get one to make good the deal with Tom (above). Perhaps he's "Bingo".. I've no idea and a little confused at this moment. He's a good talker, that's all I know. I don't wish to land an innocent guy in trouble, but if Tom (above) can provide me more info, then perhaps I can help sort out this mess and Pete can come out of it with either a good character or not. My home/evening phone number is +44(0)1306628320. If I can be of any assistance, as the Chairman of the GT40 enthusiasts Club, a lawyer, and someone who has met Pete, then give me a call... Andrew
 

Jim Rosenthal

Supporter
Re: Gearbox For Sale GT40 ZF 5DS-25 Type 0

This all sucks. Tom, my condolences. This is awful. I had this happen on Mercedes parts a few years back, but not a sum this large. People running scams like this ought to be dragged out and shot.
 
Re: Gearbox For Sale GT40 ZF 5DS-25 Type 0

*** Pete Schömer is the alleged "victim" who contacted me some weeks ago to find out about the subject of this thread, a ZF-0 box which he bought "for a client" and to which, went missing, Pete losing his/his customers money. So I'm not sure whether Pete is the "victim" or the scammer??? Pete says he's starting up a historic motorsport garage near Chichester, W Sussex, England. I also have a ZF-2 box which may or may not be for sale, but Pete was after buying it from me. I know this box exists, as it's in my garage at home. Perhaps, he's trying to get one to make good the deal with Tom (above). Perhaps he's "Bingo".. I've no idea and a little confused at this moment. He's a good talker, that's all I know. I don't wish to land an innocent guy in trouble, but if Tom (above) can provide me more info, then perhaps I can help sort out this mess and Pete can come out of it with either a good character or not. My home/evening phone number is +44(0)1306628320. If I can be of any assistance, as the Chairman of the GT40 enthusiasts Club, a lawyer, and someone who has met Pete, then give me a call... Andrew


Pete is a scammer, got no money. Just excuses. I have contacted CID in UK.

He NEVER EVER told me he did not own the gearbox. Fraud!

I contacted his bank and the branch manager wrote back and advised Pete my banking information was sufficient. Still no money!

Pete gave me the address in Scotland where he said he bought the gearbox.
I wrote them. They never heard of him

LIES LIES LIES LIES. TOLD SCAM ARTIST

BEWARE !

FRAUD!
 

Ron Earp

Admin
Re: Gearbox For Sale GT40 ZF 5DS-25 Type 0

I believe this Pete fellow emailed me demanding this thread be removed as it was costing him business. He claimed litigation was to follow as his character was being damaged and he didn't want to forum to suffer, i.e., implying he'll sue the forum too. As usual, nothing was removed. Posters are responsible for their comments and the laws governing the forum are US laws which agree on that point.
 
Re: Gearbox For Sale GT40 ZF 5DS-25 Type 0

The truth remains the truth.
I have yet received my 7900 GBP back

This is going on 9 months, funds not returned!

The CID will eventually pay him a visit, reports have been filed.

Does anyone else suspect fraud?

BEWARE!!!!
 
Re: Gearbox For Sale GT40 ZF 5DS-25 Type 0

Just for a bit of clarity here on this one.....

1. Tom agreed to purchase the transaxle and sent funds to the claimed seller/owner of this particular ZF, but never received the transaxle?

2. The claimed seller/owner agreed to refund the money to Tom, but hasn't done so?

3. Instead of refunding the money to Tom, why didn't the seller/owner just send the darn transaxle to Tom? Is the transaxle not in the seller/owner's possession?

4. Somebody other than a legitimate seller/owner of the transaxle posted an advertisement and somehow defrauded somebody else of their funds?

Confused....
 

Ron Earp

Admin
Re: Gearbox For Sale GT40 ZF 5DS-25 Type 0

Dear Forum Members,

I'm confused here too. I don't know what the story is here between "Pete" and "Tom", Tom's posts are vague and Pete doesn't post. But Pete has emailed me multiple times and indicates he is suing the forum over damages caused to his businesses due to this thread. He indicates he's contacting his attorney to start "International Proceedings against the administrators and GT40s.com".

I've asked him for his attorney's name and which of his companies will be suing the forum. Maybe some of you know Pete or know of him. I've asked Pete to post on the forum and set the record straight regarding this thread, but he declined and demands the thread be removed immediately or the forum will be sued.

Clearly, I cannot simply delete a thread based on one claim or another - how am I to know who's at fault or who's telling the truth? Therefore, it seems I have no option but to be sued.

GT40s.com is an LLC based in the United States and US laws apply to the site, and naturally when you join GT40s.com you click a button that says you're responsible for all your posts and GT40s.com is responsible for nothing, but I suppose he can sue us in England "where the laws are different" as he claims. I suppose they are, I don't know.

Any comments? Do I need to take up a GT40s.com lawsuit collection or enlist the aid of some of the attorneys that are members here?

Lunch is over, back to my day job.
 

Rick Muck- Mark IV

GT40s Sponsor
Supporter
Re: Gearbox For Sale GT40 ZF 5DS-25 Type 0

Ron,

I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for the legal documents to arrive.

Yes, the laws regarding liable are VERY different in the UK. If I call you a "right wanker" in the US I am protected as that is my opiion as I understand the laws here, in the UK I could be sued unless I can prove you are a "right wanker"

I applaud your stance in not removing the posts. Another car related forum pulled posts relating to a disputed chassis number as they received a threat of legal action from a person who was at best, a bully and actually sent emails to those involved threatening bodily harm and worse (a direct quote "I am an ex-cop and I know how to make you disappear!").

Don't give in to long distance bullies...........
 
Re: Gearbox For Sale GT40 ZF 5DS-25 Type 0

Dear Forum Members,

I'm confused here too. I don't know what the story is here between "Pete" and "Tom", Tom's posts are vague and Pete doesn't post. But Pete has emailed me multiple times and indicates he is suing the forum over damages caused to his businesses due to this thread. He indicates he's contacting his attorney to start "International Proceedings against the administrators and GT40s.com".

I've asked him for his attorney's name and which of his companies will be suing the forum. Maybe some of you know Pete or know of him. I've asked Pete to post on the forum and set the record straight regarding this thread, but he declined and demands the thread be removed immediately or the forum will be sued.

Clearly, I cannot simply delete a thread based on one claim or another - how am I to know who's at fault or who's telling the truth? Therefore, it seems I have no option but to be sued.

GT40s.com is an LLC based in the United States and US laws apply to the site, and naturally when you join GT40s.com you click a button that says you're responsible for all your posts and GT40s.com is responsible for nothing, but I suppose he can sue us in England "where the laws are different" as he claims. I suppose they are, I don't know.

Any comments? Do I need to take up a GT40s.com lawsuit collection or enlist the aid of some of the attorneys that are members here?

Lunch is over, back to my day job.

Ron,

You (and the forum) has nothing to worry about.

The plaintiff would have to litigate in your local jurisdiction...which is very expensive and problematic for a foreign plaintiff. They would need to engage counsel local to you (ie. your County)...a solicitor in the UK can't do anything here. Not only are the logistics impossible, your local courts wouldn't allow them to represent the plaintiff as a UK solicitor is not admitted to the State Bar in your jurisdiction. In other words, jurisdiction is a big problem for the plaintiff and, in itself, likely to prevent anything formal here.

Secondly, libel/slander is very difficult to prove, let along the possibility that, in fact, the allegations might well be true (which is a complete defense). And, whose to say the forum would have any responsibility for it (you already mentioned the click-through type disclaimer language).

Thirdly, what are the damages? Loss of business revenues? Good luck to the plaintiff proving that.

Net, I wouldn't be too concerned. I'd let the comments stand. If the person claiming they've been damaged really believes there's a misstatement of fact, they have the opportunity to set it straight publicly via posting to the forum here.

I have a friend who owns and runs the website complaints.com. It's a site designed to provide web-based air time to consumers who believe they have been damaged by vendors and the like. Of course, vendors are always threatening to sue the site owner for supposed damage caused by the airing of consumer complaints. Nobody ever files suit. People threaten all kinds of things. For the very rare few that might actually go see an attorney about it, when they get into a lawyer's office and realize they have to go hire local counsel in the defendants jurisdiction.....and then write a $5,000 or $10,000 retainer check to that lawyer, guess what happens? Nada.
 
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Pete

CURRENTLY BANNED
Re: Gearbox For Sale GT40 ZF 5DS-25 Type 0

Hello everyone...Hi to you too Tom.
I really don't think this is the right place for Tom to start online slander and defamation of my character. That is a real cheap shot Tom!
We have a on going situation here, and as they say, there are 3 sides to every story. Toms / mine and the truth. It is true that I got screwed twice on the purchase of that gearbox mentioned at the start of this thread. Once on Craigs list and also ebay.
I see that Ade (Bingo) has been banned...I guess he is the guy that screwed me from Scotland.
I will be happy to put a end to this and will deal with Tom direct as I have been doing in the past. I'm not hiding from anyome and welcome a visit by anyone that Tom threatens me with...
While searching for a replacement gearbox for Tom I did find a 'original' GT40 ZF gearbox that is correct for a 1965/66 GT40 It's rebuilt, located in California and read to be shipped. This is not the Pantera version. ID is - 5DS 25/0 #212

Price is $22,000
Thank You...
Pete.
[email protected]
 
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