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11-14-07, 09:13 PM
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#121 (permalink)
| | Doug68 A Tenth
Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Perth, WA
Posts: 151
Rep Power: 2  | Re: Kiwi scratchbuilt Russ,
Thanks for the explanation that makes sense to me. Sorry to hear about the eye that must really bite at times. |
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11-15-07, 02:06 PM
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#122 (permalink)
| | Russ Noble Lifetime Premier Supporter
Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Christchurch,NZ GT40: Building scratc
Posts: 1,328
Rep Power: 19   | Re: Kiwi scratchbuilt Yeah, can be a nuisance at times, but it's just another factor to consider when doing things.
Nothing's all bad though, if I had both eyes I wouldn't be on this forum building a race GT40. I'd be out there now going hammer and tongs in a Formula Ford. I really love the cut and thrust of close competitive open wheeler racing. I won the FF Championship here in the early eighties when I still had two eyes. Then I got married.......
But close racing in open wheelers is a no no with limited peripheral vision. So here we are building something with protected wheels...I'd always thought I'd like a big rear engined V8 sportscar anyway....
Only because I am here, have I got to know the many interesting and talented guys on this forum and made the great friends that I have. It's all good.
Cheers,
__________________ Russ
° Scratchbuild. Spaceframe Mk1 wide body. Dry sumped, forged, 351W. LSD930. 10's & 14's.
Most parts now sourced. Body 80% done. Chassis, rollcage 95% finished. Suspension 70% built. Engine starting to build, and trans in a million pieces. http://www.gt40s.com/forum/gt40-buil...atchbuilt.html |
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11-15-07, 02:16 PM
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#123 (permalink)
| | Russ Noble Lifetime Premier Supporter
Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Christchurch,NZ GT40: Building scratc
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Rep Power: 19   | Re: Kiwi scratchbuilt Pedals made and mounted.
__________________ Russ
° Scratchbuild. Spaceframe Mk1 wide body. Dry sumped, forged, 351W. LSD930. 10's & 14's.
Most parts now sourced. Body 80% done. Chassis, rollcage 95% finished. Suspension 70% built. Engine starting to build, and trans in a million pieces. http://www.gt40s.com/forum/gt40-buil...atchbuilt.html |
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12-09-07, 05:52 AM
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#124 (permalink)
| | Russ Noble Lifetime Premier Supporter
Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Christchurch,NZ GT40: Building scratc
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Rep Power: 19   | Re: Kiwi scratchbuilt Nearly Christmas and work continues apace. Should be a heap of goodies that were bought in Aug/Sept arrive on the boat in the next week or two. Also a few things recently ordered that are being air freighted in just so I won't run out of things to do over Christmas.
Working on the motor/trans at present. It's the first time I've prepared an American V8 so what I don't know will fill a book!
Anyway, recently got the new reciprocating assembly back from cracktesting by my mate at the airways NDT facility. All good, so in for balancing (internal of course) last week on a Sunnen DCB-750. Not much to do, one slug of Mallory. All Lim's flywheel/clutch machining was spot on and in perfect balance.
I have increased the step on the triple plate clutch from 3mm to 5mm and will initially fit 2mm shims under the cover to achieve the correct setup pressure. We have machined three sets of shims , 2.0, 1.3, and 0.65 and will fit these in turn rather than replacing clutch plates as the friction faces wear. Should get four times the life out of the plates.  And I haven't even got a Jewish/Scottish ancestry!
Below is the clutch cover with the three sets of shims.
__________________ Russ
° Scratchbuild. Spaceframe Mk1 wide body. Dry sumped, forged, 351W. LSD930. 10's & 14's.
Most parts now sourced. Body 80% done. Chassis, rollcage 95% finished. Suspension 70% built. Engine starting to build, and trans in a million pieces. http://www.gt40s.com/forum/gt40-buil...atchbuilt.html |
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12-09-07, 06:07 AM
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#125 (permalink)
| | Russ Noble Lifetime Premier Supporter
Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Christchurch,NZ GT40: Building scratc
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Rep Power: 19   | Re: Kiwi scratchbuilt While the NDT and balancing has been going on, I have been prepping the Dart iron block and Brodix 225 CNC heads.
Reworked the combustion chambers slightly, altered the valve lengths and set up the rocker geometry. The supplied pedestal shims were miles out and Lim machined up an individual set for each side to get everything 100% right. 3.6 for the LHS and 3.2 RHS. Must be shim week this week!
__________________ Russ
° Scratchbuild. Spaceframe Mk1 wide body. Dry sumped, forged, 351W. LSD930. 10's & 14's.
Most parts now sourced. Body 80% done. Chassis, rollcage 95% finished. Suspension 70% built. Engine starting to build, and trans in a million pieces. http://www.gt40s.com/forum/gt40-buil...atchbuilt.html |
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12-09-07, 06:13 AM
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#126 (permalink)
| | Russ Noble Lifetime Premier Supporter
Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Christchurch,NZ GT40: Building scratc
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Rep Power: 19   | Re: Kiwi scratchbuilt My heavy duty off the shelf spring compressorwas not man enough for the heavy springs and munted itself after compressing half a dozen!  So we turned around and made our own with an aluminium sleeve over a bearing so it turns easily and won't mark the valve head/combustion chamber. Works a treat, nice and simple. 
__________________ Russ
° Scratchbuild. Spaceframe Mk1 wide body. Dry sumped, forged, 351W. LSD930. 10's & 14's.
Most parts now sourced. Body 80% done. Chassis, rollcage 95% finished. Suspension 70% built. Engine starting to build, and trans in a million pieces. http://www.gt40s.com/forum/gt40-buil...atchbuilt.html
Last edited by Russ Noble; 12-09-07 at 06:21 AM.
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12-10-07, 10:59 PM
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#127 (permalink)
| | superflyte Rookie
Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Fremantle, WA GT40: Roaring Forties
Posts: 93
Rep Power: 2  | Re: Kiwi scratchbuilt Hi Russ
Nice looking chassis. You didn't happen to throw it on the scales before adding all the suspension links / extras, did you? Interested to see why much she weighs.
I assume it's made from 4130 CM? (it has probably been stated, but there is every chance I missed it!)
Good work.
__________________ Troy Beros...
Roaring Forties Chassis No. 12 |
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12-12-07, 12:22 AM
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#128 (permalink)
| | Russ Noble Lifetime Premier Supporter
Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Christchurch,NZ GT40: Building scratc
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Rep Power: 19   | Re: Kiwi scratchbuilt Hi Troy,
Thanks.
The weight as pictured with full rollcage and including the front and rear subframes comes in at 108 Kg or 238 lbs.
Note it is not finished yet, there are still some brackets to fabricate. Main ones being door hinge mounts and seat belt mounts. There are also lots of little things like fuel pump mounts etc to do so it's likely to end up around 115 Kg or 250 lbs.
Don't forget though that a lot of the stiffness relies on bonded and riveted alloy panels so for any meaningful comparisons that must be taken into account. When that's done I'll weigh it and post it on this thread Chassis Weight
The really interesting weight though will be the all up dry weight. Anyone care to take some guesses.....
Chassis details, material etc are in Post # 65.
I see I haven't posted a view of the chassis from the front so here goes
__________________ Russ
° Scratchbuild. Spaceframe Mk1 wide body. Dry sumped, forged, 351W. LSD930. 10's & 14's.
Most parts now sourced. Body 80% done. Chassis, rollcage 95% finished. Suspension 70% built. Engine starting to build, and trans in a million pieces. http://www.gt40s.com/forum/gt40-buil...atchbuilt.html
Last edited by Russ Noble; 12-12-07 at 12:31 AM.
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12-12-07, 01:42 AM
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#129 (permalink)
| | superflyte Rookie
Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Fremantle, WA GT40: Roaring Forties
Posts: 93
Rep Power: 2  | Re: Kiwi scratchbuilt Thanks Russ.
That's a good looking chassis, I'm going to stay firmly planted on the fence and not even hedge a bet on dry weight!
Keep us posted!
__________________ Troy Beros...
Roaring Forties Chassis No. 12 |
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12-17-07, 03:12 AM
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#130 (permalink)
| | Russ Noble Lifetime Premier Supporter
Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Christchurch,NZ GT40: Building scratc
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Rep Power: 19   | Re: Kiwi scratchbuilt Work continues on the motor. After seeing Satan's  TS 875 build thread, I had to do a quick search on standpipes to find out what they were, and then a quick email to Jac Mac to find out WTF they did! Did I mention I know nothing about motors?  Anyway after some clarification, standpipes have been made and fitted. There was also mention of lifter bore mods for oiling the roller lifters....
Whilst I was quite happy to scratch away at the lifter bores with a hacksaw blade in true Kiwi fashion a la Jac Mac, and no doubt it would have worked fine, Lim threw up his hands in horror and said we need to make a tool for that.... Photo's are of the Mk1 tool which did the job. However when we designed the tool we didn't realise the lifter bores were not parallel to the cylinder bores, so the Mk2 tool has a pivoting fulcrum under the lift nut to accommodate the angle.
__________________ Russ
° Scratchbuild. Spaceframe Mk1 wide body. Dry sumped, forged, 351W. LSD930. 10's & 14's.
Most parts now sourced. Body 80% done. Chassis, rollcage 95% finished. Suspension 70% built. Engine starting to build, and trans in a million pieces. http://www.gt40s.com/forum/gt40-buil...atchbuilt.html
Last edited by Russ Noble; 12-17-07 at 03:24 AM.
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12-17-07, 04:20 PM
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#131 (permalink)
| | Frank Beuker Silver Supporter
Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: the netherlands GT40: kva
Posts: 434
Rep Power: 7  | Re: Kiwi scratchbuilt Russ I see that your learning curve also is going straight up
I'ts all looking good Russ
Frank |
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12-17-07, 04:53 PM
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#132 (permalink)
| | Scott Calabro Supporting Vendor
Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: New England GT40: TS40 # 875
Posts: 714
Rep Power: 9  | Re: Kiwi scratchbuilt Excellent work Russ, now where are the pictures of the standpipes!
Merry Christmas!
S |
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12-17-07, 05:56 PM
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#133 (permalink)
| | jac mac 10 tenths
Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Gore N.Z.
Posts: 1,364
Rep Power: 18   | Re: Kiwi scratchbuilt Check for roller lifter link bar clearance on the 4 corner lifter bores- if it needs extra clearance a simple die grinder & cutter will suffice-no special tools needed  -- ( Doubt that you wil need to on iron block though. |
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12-28-07, 05:05 AM
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#134 (permalink)
| | Russ Noble Lifetime Premier Supporter
Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Christchurch,NZ GT40: Building scratc
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Rep Power: 19   | Re: Kiwi scratchbuilt Today I have finally fitted up the 928 front mounted starter and assembled the flywheel/clutch/ring gear and offered up the transaxle and set final clearances on the hydraulic release bearing. Everything's going to work a treat. Photos later.
Billet side plate for the 930 has been machined so everything is slowly taking shape. Stick on tags on the original are XY co-ordinates for the hole centres for the mill. Saves doing a drawing, just take a photo.
__________________ Russ
° Scratchbuild. Spaceframe Mk1 wide body. Dry sumped, forged, 351W. LSD930. 10's & 14's.
Most parts now sourced. Body 80% done. Chassis, rollcage 95% finished. Suspension 70% built. Engine starting to build, and trans in a million pieces. http://www.gt40s.com/forum/gt40-buil...atchbuilt.html |
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12-28-07, 05:21 AM
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#135 (permalink)
| | Russ Noble Lifetime Premier Supporter
Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Christchurch,NZ GT40: Building scratc
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Rep Power: 19   | Re: Kiwi scratchbuilt Rear hub axles have been made both sides. Machined from billet. We had to farm out cutting the splines. The spinners are forged alloy supplied by PSE.
Quite large differences in the machining tolerances for the threads between the PSE supplied articles and Lims Vintage supplied spinners. We're getting used to this now though and have learnt to check everything and machine to suit.
__________________ Russ
° Scratchbuild. Spaceframe Mk1 wide body. Dry sumped, forged, 351W. LSD930. 10's & 14's.
Most parts now sourced. Body 80% done. Chassis, rollcage 95% finished. Suspension 70% built. Engine starting to build, and trans in a million pieces. http://www.gt40s.com/forum/gt40-buil...atchbuilt.html |
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12-31-07, 03:15 AM
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#136 (permalink)
| | Russ Noble Lifetime Premier Supporter
Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Christchurch,NZ GT40: Building scratc
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Rep Power: 19   | Re: Kiwi scratchbuilt The starter/ flywheel with these Porsche trannies is somewhat of a mission but I have trodden a slightly different path on this one.
Primary concern was that I wanted a light and compact flywheel which really dictated a forward ring gear. I spent a lot of time looking at how to extend the starter nose forward to suit using the standard Porsche mounts. In the end there were too many problems to surmount and space was tight too.
So I decided a forward starter mounted off the adaptor plate was the best way to go. This made my new Hi Torque starter redundant because the direction of rotation is wrong when it is turned around. So I ordered a new 928 unit from 928 Motorsports.
Anyone in NZ want a brand new, unused, Hi Torque 930 starter at a good price? Fits G50 as well I believe.
I initially wanted to fit it to the LHS because of the dry sump lines on the RHS but after already doing a chop on a couple of chassis tubes it became obvious that configured that way there just wasn't room as my motor sits really low in the chassis. So had a really close look at the RHS and found I could just fit it in and the drysump lines too.
In the end it was quite simple to do and you can see how compact the flywheel is.
__________________ Russ
° Scratchbuild. Spaceframe Mk1 wide body. Dry sumped, forged, 351W. LSD930. 10's & 14's.
Most parts now sourced. Body 80% done. Chassis, rollcage 95% finished. Suspension 70% built. Engine starting to build, and trans in a million pieces. http://www.gt40s.com/forum/gt40-buil...atchbuilt.html |
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12-31-07, 03:57 AM
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#137 (permalink)
| | Russ Noble Lifetime Premier Supporter
Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Christchurch,NZ GT40: Building scratc
Posts: 1,328
Rep Power: 19   | Re: Kiwi scratchbuilt It necessitated machining up a new mounting plate with threaded holes for the 6mm mounting capscrews. New plate on left replacing old on the right.
__________________ Russ
° Scratchbuild. Spaceframe Mk1 wide body. Dry sumped, forged, 351W. LSD930. 10's & 14's.
Most parts now sourced. Body 80% done. Chassis, rollcage 95% finished. Suspension 70% built. Engine starting to build, and trans in a million pieces. http://www.gt40s.com/forum/gt40-buil...atchbuilt.html | | | |