GT40s.com
MK-I  MK-II  MK-III  MK-IV  GULF  MIRAGE  J-CAR  LOLA
GT40s.com
Home Forum Gallery Member Rides Support GT40s.com  
Register FAQ Members List Advertisers Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Go Back   GT40s.com > GT40 Technical Forums > GT40 Build Logs

Notices

GT40 Build Logs For build threads and build diaries only.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-25-07, 12:15 AM   #1 (permalink)
ross nicol's Avatar
ross nicol
10 tenths
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: melbourne austr
Posts: 1,033
Rep Power: 20 ross nicol has a brilliant futureross nicol has a brilliant futureross nicol has a brilliant future
RF#025 Historic Build and ongoing development

Some historic pics
Attached Images
File Type: jpg gt40.jpg (19.4 KB, 764 views)
File Type: jpg gt40brake.jpg (39.2 KB, 766 views)
File Type: jpg gt40dash1.jpg (12.3 KB, 752 views)
File Type: jpg gt40dash2.jpg (26.6 KB, 752 views)
File Type: jpg gt40dash3.jpg (18.9 KB, 749 views)
File Type: jpg gt40dash4.jpg (33.5 KB, 740 views)
File Type: jpg gt40dash5.jpg (9.3 KB, 747 views)
File Type: jpg gt40dash.jpg (10.8 KB, 733 views)
File Type: jpg gt40disc.jpg (22.6 KB, 757 views)
File Type: jpg gt40fly.jpg (26.9 KB, 749 views)
File Type: jpg gt40fuse1.jpg (37.1 KB, 748 views)
File Type: jpg gt40fuse.jpg (25.8 KB, 738 views)
File Type: jpg gt40gearbox1.jpg (29.5 KB, 747 views)
File Type: jpg gt40gearbox.jpg (19.7 KB, 727 views)
File Type: jpg gt40head.jpg (13.5 KB, 733 views)
File Type: jpg gt40inletm1.jpg (20.6 KB, 736 views)
File Type: jpg gt40inletm.jpg (31.5 KB, 744 views)
File Type: jpg gt40motec.jpg (42.0 KB, 733 views)
File Type: jpg gt40motor2.jpg (25.9 KB, 722 views)
File Type: jpg gt40motor1.jpg (21.2 KB, 721 views)
File Type: jpg gt40motor3.jpg (21.0 KB, 726 views)
File Type: jpg gt40motor4.jpg (25.8 KB, 715 views)
File Type: jpg gt40motor5.jpg (23.5 KB, 714 views)
File Type: jpg gt40motor6.jpg (22.2 KB, 713 views)
File Type: jpg gt40suspen1.jpg (29.7 KB, 729 views)
File Type: jpg gt40suspen2.jpg (27.2 KB, 728 views)
File Type: jpg gt40suspen3.jpg (16.8 KB, 715 views)
File Type: jpg gt40suspen6.jpg (11.9 KB, 711 views)
File Type: jpg gt40suspen.jpg (24.4 KB, 710 views)
File Type: jpg gt401.jpg (21.0 KB, 712 views)
File Type: jpg gt402.jpg (31.9 KB, 706 views)
File Type: jpg gt403.jpg (15.0 KB, 702 views)
File Type: jpg gt404.jpg (13.9 KB, 712 views)
File Type: jpg gt405.jpg (21.3 KB, 704 views)
File Type: jpg gt406.jpg (14.6 KB, 698 views)
File Type: jpg gt4011.jpg (27.9 KB, 699 views)
File Type: jpg gt407.jpg (27.5 KB, 706 views)
File Type: jpg gt408.jpg (29.5 KB, 692 views)
File Type: jpg gt409.jpg (30.0 KB, 691 views)
File Type: jpg gt4010.jpg (31.8 KB, 696 views)
File Type: jpg gt4012.jpg (29.2 KB, 688 views)
File Type: jpg gt4013.jpg (29.2 KB, 687 views)
File Type: jpg gt4014.jpg (29.0 KB, 685 views)
File Type: jpg gt4015.jpg (20.8 KB, 682 views)
File Type: jpg gt4016.jpg (15.8 KB, 683 views)
File Type: jpg gt4017.jpg (7.5 KB, 679 views)
File Type: jpg gt4018.jpg (10.1 KB, 683 views)
File Type: jpg gt4019.jpg (7.9 KB, 683 views)
File Type: jpg headers1.jpg (30.2 KB, 700 views)
File Type: jpg headers2.jpg (25.6 KB, 690 views)
File Type: jpg headers3.jpg (33.2 KB, 701 views)
File Type: jpg headers.jpg (28.9 KB, 695 views)
File Type: jpg heders4.jpg (29.1 KB, 696 views)
File Type: jpg finished-car-engbay.jpg (31.3 KB, 706 views)
File Type: jpg finishedcarrear.jpg (18.8 KB, 711 views)
__________________
RF #025 currently racing
ZF,Motec injection
Lotus Europa S2
De Tomaso Pantera
ross nicol is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-07, 02:33 AM   #2 (permalink)
ross nicol's Avatar
ross nicol
10 tenths
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: melbourne austr
Posts: 1,033
Rep Power: 20 ross nicol has a brilliant futureross nicol has a brilliant futureross nicol has a brilliant future
Re: RF#025 Historic Build and ongoing development

Some current photos showing the temporary front wheels.Oil filter and catch tank mount on the rear of the bulkhead. I've never been happy with the original mounting where I used inserts in the thin alloy panels.This allowed the oil filter mount to flex when fitting and removing filters.It was the same for the catch tank and cooling system header tank.I've fitted 6mm alloy plate and bolted through to nutserts in the chassis.Quite a job but much happier with it. Note the oil tank is actually the same shape as fuel tank. Also note the oil temp sender next to the outlet. I'm waiting on the crank which is being balanced again because Ross lost the weight for the flywheel.
More to come
Ross
Attached Images
File Type: jpg GT40 resized 001.jpg (61.2 KB, 680 views)
File Type: jpg GT40 resized 002.jpg (56.3 KB, 665 views)
File Type: jpg GT40 resized 003.jpg (38.1 KB, 664 views)
File Type: jpg GT40 resized 004.jpg (64.2 KB, 675 views)
File Type: jpg GT40 resized 005.jpg (55.6 KB, 671 views)
File Type: jpg GT40 resized 006.jpg (53.6 KB, 669 views)
File Type: jpg GT40 resized 007.jpg (59.9 KB, 670 views)
File Type: jpg GT40 resized 008.jpg (58.2 KB, 674 views)
File Type: jpg GT40 resized 009.jpg (52.5 KB, 672 views)
File Type: jpg GT40 resized 010.jpg (70.3 KB, 673 views)
File Type: jpg GT40 resized 011.jpg (41.4 KB, 654 views)
File Type: jpg GT40 resized 012.jpg (51.3 KB, 665 views)
__________________
RF #025 currently racing
ZF,Motec injection
Lotus Europa S2
De Tomaso Pantera
ross nicol is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-07, 02:47 AM   #3 (permalink)
JackW's Avatar
JackW
Magnificent Bastard
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Melbourne
GT40: Melbourne, Aust
Posts: 297
Rep Power: 6 JackW is a splendid one to behold
Re: RF#025 Historic Build and ongoing development

cool photos Ross. Thanks for sharing.

Cheers

Jack
__________________
Keeping the dream alive!
Original Mach 2 - From Xbox Forza
JackW is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-07, 12:20 AM   #4 (permalink)
superflyte's Avatar
superflyte
Rookie
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Fremantle, WA
GT40: Roaring Forties
Posts: 94
Rep Power: 2 superflyte is on a distinguished road
Re: RF#025 Historic Build and ongoing development

Hi Ross,

On the track, do you run the slicks, and if so, what size rubber?

Good pics. Always helpful to see another of the same breed to work out just exactly where everything goes!
superflyte is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-07, 05:20 AM   #5 (permalink)
Jim C's Avatar
Jim C
Gold Supporter
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: SYDNEY, AUSTRAL
GT40: RF 105
Posts: 485
Rep Power: 8 Jim C will become famous soon enough
Re: RF#025 Historic Build and ongoing development

Ross

Looks like a different lower arm but the same upper.
8th pic up from the bottom the upper inner front rose joint looks like its in a link adjuster or is it my eyes playing tricks.
Just curious.

Haven't you put new uprights on if so a pic would be nice

Jim
__________________
Occupation Automotive
Interests are
Fabrication and design
Building my car
Sydney Australia
www.mentalperformance.com.au
Jim C is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 10-09-07, 11:06 PM   #6 (permalink)
ross nicol's Avatar
ross nicol
10 tenths
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: melbourne austr
Posts: 1,033
Rep Power: 20 ross nicol has a brilliant futureross nicol has a brilliant futureross nicol has a brilliant future
Re: RF#025 Historic Build and ongoing development

Hi Jim - Sorry I missed your post. Yes the lower arms are newly fabricated. With the upper arms I had longer straight tubes with rose joint ferrules fabricated and welded on as original.Essentially the arms are as original but extended by 50mm.As a result though the geometry locates the hub forward from the original position, hence increasing the wheelbase slightly, which is handy if I choose to add castor. I will take some pics when time allows. I'm in strife with wheels and tyres now as all the old front wheels have the wrong offset. I'm racing at Winton this weekend so have a chance to check the steering weight around tight corners.If what I felt during the 3 laps at Phillip island holds up it should be good even though I'm down on power with the old motor.

Troy

My slick tyre sizes are front 265/625 R17

Rear 300/640 R17

I presume the 625 and 640 are rolling diameter in millimetres and no aspect ratio is given
Ross
__________________
RF #025 currently racing
ZF,Motec injection
Lotus Europa S2
De Tomaso Pantera
ross nicol is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 10-09-07, 11:54 PM   #7 (permalink)
ross nicol's Avatar
ross nicol
10 tenths
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: melbourne austr
Posts: 1,033
Rep Power: 20 ross nicol has a brilliant futureross nicol has a brilliant futureross nicol has a brilliant future
Re: RF#025 Historic Build and ongoing development

Latest update
Yes the old motor is back in and I was driving the car home from a club meeting last night when the cops stopped me.After the breath test and satisfying them I had been to the meeting,he noticed I wasn't displaying a front plate, so fair cop $121 fine. You may enjoy a couple of experiences I had while the motors were exchanged.I don't know why but I seem to lift the motor out of the car differently every time I do it. Anyway on this occasion I chose to remove the transaxle first and then lift the motor out. Senility seems to have grasped me and lack of memory of good past experience. I wrapped chains around the engine mounts for the lift and all went well until I was ready to set the motor down on the trolley.The whole thing flipped on me and I couldnt stop the weight from crushing 3 of the intake trumpets. I immediately built straps and chains to bolt to the exhaust manifold holes so this will never happen again.Order new set of 8 trumpets from DC&O $340 oh well.
So you ask, "heck what else could Ross do to eclipse that" Well it goes like this, when I changed motors the new motor had an internally balanced crank and I removed the flywheel weight which rightly or wrongly I believed was part of the 50oz external counter balance required for the stock HO shaft.So with the old motor going back in I decided the weight must be reinstalled.So I searched and searched and searched even shifting 1/2 the workshop for days.In the end I had to move on and removed the crankshaft for re-balancing.I was lucky because the machine shop that balanced it originally still had data on the rod/piston weights, so I left the pistons in the bores and gave them the harmonic balancer,crankshaft,flywheel and clutch pressure plate.They add weights to the big ends (Called bob weights) to simulate the rods and pistons and balance the whole lot as a unit.An absolute must for racing. Apart from this all went fairly smoothly except the firing order of the 2 motors is different and because the injectors fire sequentially in the firing order something had to be done. I made extension leads instead of re-routing wires cost of plugs $110. However when the bigger motor goes back in I only have to remove the extensions. Always plan ahead I say.Mmmmm not always possible.
I downloaded the old motor's Motec data and fired it up last sunday seems ok but still checks to do.On monday I went to fire it again and it didn't fire easily, so I put a little throttle on and tried again.Well it shot into life and suddenly spat oil from the filter in through the car and onto the chassis,shop floor etc,etc.The cause of this is pressure and cold thick oil.The filter tries to send oil through the holes at the top and when it can't builds up pressure blowing the filter seal at the top.So unless I use the SP filters with larger holes I have to start the car with no throttle angle and wait for the oil to warm up before revving, easy isn't it.
Ross
__________________
RF #025 currently racing
ZF,Motec injection
Lotus Europa S2
De Tomaso Pantera
ross nicol is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 10-10-07, 12:22 AM   #8 (permalink)
Pete's Avatar
Pete
Lifetime Premier Supporter
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Brisbane, Austr
GT40: GT40 Australia.
Posts: 2,829
Rep Power: 37 Pete has much to be proud ofPete has much to be proud of
Re: RF#025 Historic Build and ongoing development

I'm sure you were a journalist in another life Ross. I guess we all have storys like that.
Re the cold oil issue, come and join us in Sunny Queensland; Problem solved.
__________________
Cheers, Pete.
DRB chassis 48.

Queensland Australia.
Pete is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 10-10-07, 01:13 AM   #9 (permalink)
jac mac's Avatar
jac mac
10 tenths
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Gore N.Z.
Posts: 1,396
Rep Power: 18 jac mac has much to be proud ofjac mac has much to be proud of
Smile Re: RF#025 Historic Build and ongoing development

Ross,
The only time I have ever had the O-Ring blow out of a filter was due to a stuck relief valve in the pump & that happened in Perth on a 351c. My point is that 'YOU' know how cold it gets down my way- I tend to think your problem might be in the lines or filter housing ( Oil goes into the filter by way of the outer holes-exits by center hole ) rather than the filter itself.

Actually the cause might be those fittings going into the filter block, what is the bore of them on the small end ? No point in having -12 or -10 hose if you have fittings the equivalent of -6 or-8. All fittings should have same bore as hose & ends.

Jac Mac

Last edited by jac mac; 10-10-07 at 01:22 AM.
jac mac is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 10-10-07, 01:52 AM   #10 (permalink)
ross nicol's Avatar
ross nicol
10 tenths
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: melbourne austr
Posts: 1,033
Rep Power: 20 ross nicol has a brilliant futureross nicol has a brilliant futureross nicol has a brilliant future
Re: RF#025 Historic Build and ongoing development

I hear what your saying Jac Mac.Yes I do know how cold it gets in your neck of the woods, I remember during school holidays sitting in the kitchen with our feet in the coal range oven listening to the holiday programme on the radio. We also put milk outside in a container at night and after a good solid frost it would be cold enough to make milkshakes.
Now, no there is nothing wrong with my setup, I have never had a problem when the oil is hot but on this occasion I had a cheap Chinese filter, because it was to be removed after a short time.The dry sump pump with that quick burst of speed (read bit of an over rev, alloy flywheel too). My son did it once when he was demonstrating to a young friend when I wasn't around. Left me to clean it up though. I generally stick to Purolator or Ryco filters and they seem to be good.I always warm the oil before giving it a rev though.Oil is 20w-50 castrol R (formerly GP50) not grapefruit oops I mean synthetic. Been warned off that stuff by V8 supercar engine builder. All the fittings are -12 Jac Mac. Oh yes I understand the oil enters the filter through those outer holes and exits through the centre. I was trying to describe the filter inlet holes in my post but it didn't read very well. I believe when the oil is cold these holes provide quite a restriction but when its up at race temp 100°c (see that I remembered how to do the degree) never causes a problem. I also have 11 litres of oil in the system, I will never run low again. Promise!
Ross
__________________
RF #025 currently racing
ZF,Motec injection
Lotus Europa S2
De Tomaso Pantera
ross nicol is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 10-10-07, 02:44 AM   #11 (permalink)
ross nicol's Avatar
ross nicol
10 tenths
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: melbourne austr
Posts: 1,033
Rep Power: 20 ross nicol has a brilliant futureross nicol has a brilliant futureross nicol has a brilliant future
Re: RF#025 Historic Build and ongoing development

Oil pressure gauge reading 350 to 400 kpa, solid as a rock unless Ross doesn't put enough oil in.There is a relief valve built into the pump but the pressure has always been at this point in other words it's no higher than normal.Funny you mention the Cobra Daytona Jac Mac, as Richard Bendell was here yesterday and he makes them.He's also the CEO of Motec very handy.
Ross
__________________
RF #025 currently racing
ZF,Motec injection
Lotus Europa S2
De Tomaso Pantera
ross nicol is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-08, 11:33 PM   #12 (permalink)
ross nicol's Avatar
ross nicol
10 tenths
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: melbourne austr
Posts: 1,033
Rep Power: 20 ross nicol has a brilliant futureross nicol has a brilliant futureross nicol has a brilliant future
Re: RF#025 Historic Build and ongoing development

As I have previously mentioned upgrades will continue on my car.Here is the latest. An alloy rear wing fitted as per GT40 race cars except I couldn't be bothered slotting the bolt holes to make it adjustable. Looks good let's hope my downforce improves to match. I made it out of 3mm aluminium (that's the correct spelling isn't it Russ?) We will test it at the upcoming State Race Meeting at Sandown this weekend.

Ross
__________________
RF #025 currently racing
ZF,Motec injection
Lotus Europa S2
De Tomaso Pantera
ross nicol is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-08, 11:34 PM   #13 (permalink)
ross nicol's Avatar
ross nicol
10 tenths
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: melbourne austr
Posts: 1,033
Rep Power: 20 ross nicol has a brilliant futureross nicol has a brilliant futureross nicol has a brilliant future
Re: RF#025 Historic Build and ongoing development

put the photos up Ross
Attached Images
File Type: jpg gt40 rear wing 001 (600 x 450).jpg (45.7 KB, 255 views)
File Type: jpg gt40 rear wing 002 (600 x 450).jpg (48.7 KB, 231 views)
__________________
RF #025 currently racing
ZF,Motec injection
Lotus Europa S2
De Tomaso Pantera
ross nicol is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 02-25-08, 05:50 AM   #14 (permalink)
JackW's Avatar
JackW
Magnificent Bastard
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Melbourne
GT40: Melbourne, Aust
Pos