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09-05-07, 01:25 PM
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| | MikeDD 10 tenths 
Join Date: May 2002 GT40: DRB
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Rep Power: 21  | Re: GT40 Mark I Replica project car for sale: This "prototype" was the car John Hester initially sold me as a turnkey, but never finished.
My recollection is that George (KMW) did a nice job on the chassis, including a steel roof,
but the body panels were from old molds (Integrity/Donnelly) and may not be up to par.
However for $ 35k....I doubt anyone could touch a steel mono.
Mike Duell got a great deal....a case of being in the right place at the right time.
MikeD
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09-06-07, 11:18 AM
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#22 (permalink)
| | DavidBir 
Join Date: Nov 2006
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Rep Power: 2  | Re: GT40 Mark I Replica project car for sale: I noticed the car didn't sell on epay. The angle of the driveshafts puzzles me-is that normal with this transmission. I emailed the owner and he said the ride height had not been set but that is obviously not the reason-may not be important with cv joints I suppose. |
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09-06-07, 11:52 AM
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| | Keith1 10 tenths 
Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: England GT40: Nein
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Rep Power: 26   | Re: GT40 Mark I Replica project car for sale: Just to clarify a point made earlier which someone made concerning this example being a "steel mono".
In the "Upay" description it is a "semi-mono"
It's either of true monocoque construction or it's a spaceframe that has been extensively panelled, right?
If I'm wrong, what is a "semi-mono" please?
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09-06-07, 01:44 PM
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#24 (permalink)
| | MikeDD 10 tenths 
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Rep Power: 21  | Re: GT40 Mark I Replica project car for sale: Keith
This car is absolutely not a panelled space frame...but it isn't 100 % faithful mono either.
George took some liberties to ease construction, yet the visible sections were very close
to original.
One thing must correct.....the car had a steel roof liner....not a complete steel roof.
George was working the kinks out of the steel roof when he and Mr. Hester parted ways.
This is a still a lot of replica for $ 35k...for those with the skills to complete.
MikeD
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09-06-07, 03:43 PM
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#25 (permalink)
| | Keith1 10 tenths 
Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: England GT40: Nein
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Rep Power: 26   | Re: GT40 Mark I Replica project car for sale: Thanks for the reply Mike. So in effect it is a prototype and a bit of an unknown quantity in terms of it's structural integrity...
I'm still curious as what a "semi-mono" is, but I would guess it's a chassis formed of load bearing sheet metal with internal bracing.... 
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09-06-07, 04:15 PM
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| | DavidBir 
Join Date: Nov 2006
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Rep Power: 2  | Re: GT40 Mark I Replica project car for sale: Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeDD This "prototype" was the car John Hester initially sold me as a turnkey, but never finished.
My recollection is that George (KMW) did a nice job on the chassis, including a steel roof,
but the body panels were from old molds (Integrity/Donnelly) and may not be up to par.
However for $ 35k....I doubt anyone could touch a steel mono.
Mike Duell got a great deal....a case of being in the right place at the right time.
MikeD |
Mike, Can you tell us any more? Is the body unusable? Any comment on my transaxle question? How old is this car?
Thanks, David |
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09-06-07, 06:12 PM
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#27 (permalink)
| | MikeDD 10 tenths 
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Rep Power: 21  | Re: GT40 Mark I Replica project car for sale: Keith
No question this is a 1-off car. But George was/is an excellent fabricator so
I didn't have serious concerns about it's integrity. After riding motorcycles for years,
any " crumple zone" is a bonus.
David
I never took possession of the car...only received pictures.
You'd have to inspect the body to determine whether to fix or replace it.
Fiberglass is pretty easy to work with a little experience.
Regarding the tranny, I agree that the axle angle is high, but suspect a combination of adjustment and/or different coil overs would improve the angle to a more manageable level.
Again...this is a 1-off car...frequently referred to (with pride) on the Forum by owners
as " scratchbuilt ".
MikeD
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09-06-07, 07:01 PM
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| | mj_duell Rookie 
Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Rochester, New GT40: TTR/GT
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Rep Power: 0  | Re: GT40 Mark I Replica project car for sale: Hi guys,
Took me three days to figureout that my support for the site had run out and I was no longer allowed to post in some sections. I will try to answer some of the questions you may have, but keep in mind I am in Upstate N.Y. and the project is in Chambly, Quebec. Please no comments on what I paid for the car, I have a good guess at it value and I need the cash right now.
I was not given a lot of history on the car when I picked it up. Mike Dozier seems to actaully have more. I do have the build pictures on CD. There are not that many and they aren't great, but I will share them. The car is as Mike described it. It is a monocoque with internal bracing. This is known in the aircraft and racing industry as semi-monocoque. The body needs the most work. It is not a complete basket case, but will require a lot of time. I was quoted between $30 to $40,000 for a complete tear down of the car, powdercoat, bodywork, and everything else rebuilt to his normal high quality. With all systems running and the car completely finish by Don at D&D Cobra. That is why I sent it to Chambly. However, my real estate and sofware companies could use the cash more right now so I'm selling it off. I actaully almost had it sold to a potential buyer who was going to purchase turn ten Racing, but the deal did not go through. The project will need work and adjustment, but I believe a very nice running car with a visually acurate chassis can be finished for around $75,000.00 after everthing is added up.
P.S. please email any "off-line" messages to mj_duke@yahoo.com, I never seem to get any mail from the forum.
Thanks,
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09-07-07, 03:01 AM
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| | kenshiro8 I Have No Life 
Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Milano,Italy GT40: Fujimi 1/24
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Rep Power: 28  | Re: GT40 Mark I Replica project car for sale: Mike,
I just wonder why u wont finish the car.
u are not a private enthusiast working in spare time, u are a serious professionist,and with your skill that 1-off gt40 will become something too special and with great performances.
Surely when done as u can..the car can be valued also more than 75k.
Just my humble opinion Mike..
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09-07-07, 07:31 AM
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#30 (permalink)
| | mj_duell Rookie 
Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Rochester, New GT40: TTR/GT
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Rep Power: 0  | Re: GT40 Mark I Replica project car for sale: Quote:
Originally Posted by kenshiro8 Mike,
I just wonder why u wont finish the car.
u are not a private enthusiast working in spare time, u are a serious professionist,and with your skill that 1-off gt40 will become something too special and with great performances.
Surely when done as u can..the car can be valued also more than 75k.
Just my humble opinion Mike.. | I would love to finish the GT, however, I have some opportunities that take precedence over my need for these types of cars at the moment. I’ve recently parted with a few cars that I wish I didn’t have too in order to complete a good business deal. Wish I didn’t have too, but it almost always pays off later. I also do not have any time. Between my two daughters, two companies, wife and others things I have zero time. If things workout I will build something else later down the road.
Thanks,
Mike |
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