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04-22-05, 04:29 AM
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| | simonjrwinter serial GT40 owner 
Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Essex, UK GT40: GTD
Posts: 1,785
Rep Power: 24  | Brake light switch I need to rig up a brake light switch now my new brakes are fitted.
Can anyone please post some pictures of their solutions?
Many thanks
Simon |
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04-22-05, 08:22 AM
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| | Julian West 7 Tenths 
Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Devon, UK GT40: GTD
Posts: 749
Rep Power: 14  | Re: Brake light switch How about put a tee in the hydraulic hard lines to the front calipers & then screw in a hydraulic switch. You can get these from most motor factors.
Hope this helps, |
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04-22-05, 09:00 AM
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| | Brian Magee Bronze Supporter 
Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Newbury England GT40: GTD
Posts: 434
Rep Power: 11  | Re: Brake light switch Simon
I have just fitted a mechanical (non hydraulic) one to Tim Martin's car. He should be at Stoneleigh and I am sure he will let you have a look. It is mounted on a bracket in front of the top of the pedal. The pedal holds the switch open until it is pressed.
Brian. |
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04-22-05, 07:14 PM
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| | Rookie 
Join Date: Jun 2004 GT40: Chesterfield, UK
Posts: 62
Rep Power: 5  | Re: Brake light switch Pressure brake switches can be installed anywhere on the brake lines, this one is fitted to a tee on the rear lines, you could replace an exsisting tee with a 4way adaptor and not have to cut the brake line. Pressure switches are around £6 from Demon tweeks or most motor factors. |
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04-23-05, 08:52 AM
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| | Tommy Gayer Rookie 
Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: a kitogue on the Bayou at the Texas Border GT40: Scratch built 2x3,Ford 302 mostly NASCAR parts on motor.
Posts: 96
Rep Power: 4  | Re: Brake light switch You can get a GM switch for about $6 to mount at the pedal.
I can get you a part number if you need it. Did you know the original GT40s that raced at LeMans had a brake light switch on the dash manually operated? It was to fool the Ferrari drivers into thinking they were already on the brakes before a turn. |
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04-23-05, 08:57 PM
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| | Phil 3 Tenths 
Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: New Jersey GT40: scratch built Mk1
Posts: 349
Rep Power: 8  | Re: Brake light switch Simon
GM has a nice brake light switch that Tommy mentioned, and in the same bracket for the switch is a normally open plunger type switch that can be used to interrupt the wire that feeds your starter solenoid, thus requiring a step on the clutch pedal before starting...just a thought!
Phil |
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04-24-05, 02:58 PM
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| | 4 Tenths 
Join Date: May 2002 GT40: Hertfordshire, UK
Posts: 477
Rep Power: 11  | Re: Brake light switch Here's a simple one that Frank Catt uses on his pedal boxes. Its a microswitch detecting the pedal movement. You should be able to rig something up like this, though I do think the hydraulic method is simplest even if you have just finished bleeding your brakes!
If you have a cross or tee to add a hydraulic switch then you can stop too much fluid loss by using a plastic sheet under the master cylinder reservoir cap when you screw it on - it will create a vacuum and limit loss without total draining of the system. |
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04-25-05, 09:58 PM
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| | CCX33911 10 tenths 
Join Date: Dec 2001 GT40: Virginia
Posts: 1,222
Rep Power: 19  | Re: Brake light switch The pressure switches work quite well. |
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04-29-05, 09:01 AM
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| | DavidTickle Rookie 
Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Shanghai GT40: KVA, Brish Racing Green with cream stripes. Ford 302 engine, Renault 30 g\'box
Posts: 91
Rep Power: 6  | Re: Brake light switch Hi Simon
I used to have a pressure switch, but it wasn't reliable and only came on if the brakes were pressed quite hard, so for town driving it didn't work. I replaced it with a pedal mounted switch (Escort I think) fitted to an easily fabricated bracket.
Regards
Dave Tickle |
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05-11-05, 11:51 AM
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| | llarsen Admin 
Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Raleigh, NC GT40: Sabre
Posts: 2,070
Rep Power: 29   | Re: Brake light switch Dave,
I have used the pressure switches and found the opposite to be true. Indeed, when I used one in my hydaulic clutch line as a safety interlock where the engine will not crank without pressure on the clutch pedal, I found that only lightly laying ones foot on the clutch pedal was adequate to engergize the starter solenoid. (But, if you have to put your foot on the pedal, shame on you if you don't disengage the clucth prior to cranking the engine, except in testing situations, of course, where a broom handle works quite nicely ;-) I suppose the source of the switch will make a difference in the pressure required to complete the circuit; I have used NAPA part no. SL134 throughout.
I have another of these switches on the clutch line near the transaxle. This switch or a microswitch, which senses when the transaxle is in neutral, provide a no-load signal to the engine management computer. The only downside I see to their use is the danger of leakage, which doesn't seem to occur too frequently. When they do fail, they almost never cause complete loss of pressure in the line. That said, a mechanically activated switch does completely preclude this possibility.
Lynn |
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