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12-26-06, 07:13 PM
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| | Bill D I Have No Life 
Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Camarillo, CA
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Rep Power: 34   | Lucas Wiper Motor Placement Where are you guys locating your wiper motor? What if I mount mine here on a bracket to be fabricated with the drive cable running through a hole marked by the black circle on the chassis?
Bill D
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12-26-06, 10:21 PM
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| | Phil 3 Tenths 
Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: New Jersey GT40: scratch built Mk1
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Rep Power: 8  | Re: Lucas Wiper Motor Placement Bill
I located mine under the access panel in front of my windscreen. We have different chassis, and I originally was going to locate the motor exactly where you have yours, which is fine in my opinion, but I decided to put mine completely out of the way and have the drive cable run essentially straight to the the transmission. I have seen these motors in various locations in front of the windscreen, and I can tell you that whatever works is probably fine. I can take a photo of my mounting if you need a look.
Cheers
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12-26-06, 10:32 PM
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| | jonathans Silver Supporter 
Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: TN, USA GT40: RCR
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Rep Power: 7  | Re: Lucas Wiper Motor Placement I would not put it where you have it. The more bend you have in the cable the slower it runs due to the extra friction. You want to mount it so that the cable is as straight as you can get it. |
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12-26-06, 10:53 PM
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| | Bill D I Have No Life 
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Rep Power: 34   | Re: Lucas Wiper Motor Placement Thanks guys.
Phil-
A picture would be great if you can post one.
Thanks
Bill
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12-26-06, 11:12 PM
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| | VintageVenom 6 Tenths 
Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Michigan, USA GT40: RCR-40
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Rep Power: 12   | Re: Lucas Wiper Motor Placement Bill,
I'll second Jonathans comments....."as straight as possible". Motor will run faster, under less load, and reduced chance of squeeking inside the tube.
Mine is installed an operational, I mounted it under the dash attached to the spare tire well. Here are a couple pics... |
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12-26-06, 11:20 PM
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| | Bill D I Have No Life 
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Rep Power: 34   | Re: Lucas Wiper Motor Placement Perfect! Thanks Rob.
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12-27-06, 05:15 AM
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| | ross nicol 10 tenths 
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| Re: Lucas Wiper Motor Placement I'm after one of those wiper motors for my Europa, anyone know a good place to buy at a realistic price?
Thanks Ross
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12-27-06, 11:25 AM
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| | Bill D I Have No Life 
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Rep Power: 34   | Re: Lucas Wiper Motor Placement Hi Ross and Happy Holidays!
The wiper is a Lucas 14W, 2-speed wipe motor with self park. Try this place
Cheers
Bill D
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12-27-06, 11:46 AM
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| | VintageVenom 6 Tenths 
Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Michigan, USA GT40: RCR-40
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Rep Power: 12   | Re: Lucas Wiper Motor Placement ????? Bill, didn't you get yours from RCR???
Hey Ross,
I too got mine from RCR. |
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12-27-06, 12:27 PM
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| | Bill D I Have No Life 
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Rep Power: 34   | Re: Lucas Wiper Motor Placement Yes I did
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12-28-06, 09:18 AM
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| | ross nicol 10 tenths 
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| Re: Lucas Wiper Motor Placement Thanks Bill that is exactly the beast I want, and it looks like I can just buy the motor and fit my other parts. Only problem is that pesky pound is worth 2.5 of our Aussie dollars.
Compliments of the season
Ross
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12-28-06, 11:05 AM
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| | Bill D I Have No Life 
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Rep Power: 34   | Re: Lucas Wiper Motor Placement Ross
Talk to Fran. He has the same wiper and it may be cheaper from the U.S.
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12-28-06, 04:48 PM
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| | jonathans Silver Supporter 
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Rep Power: 7  | Re: Lucas Wiper Motor Placement Now for the tougher question. What arm, and blade are you using? Where did you get them? |
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12-28-06, 06:01 PM
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| | Bill D I Have No Life 
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Rep Power: 34   | Re: Lucas Wiper Motor Placement I'm not that far yet
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12-28-06, 09:55 PM
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| | Phil 3 Tenths 
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Rep Power: 8  | Re: Lucas Wiper Motor Placement Bill
No photo yet but the one Rob posted is real close to what I did...essentially a straight run to the transmission. As far as the arm I got one from my local NAPA store, and you can mount any blade length to it you may need. They had an arm assembly that matched the spline on the Lucas unit I had so it was pretty easy.
I got my motor from a Jag, but I think MG used the same motor in a lot of vehicles especially the midget which I believe had three wipers running off the same unit. The biggest issue is avoiding sharp bends and making sure the tube is well lubed and it will give good service.
The Napa part number is 60-725 or 60-750 depending on the size of the spline on the drive.
Cheers
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12-28-06, 10:34 PM
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| | Mike Drew 3 Tenths 
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Rep Power: 7  | Re: Lucas Wiper Motor Placement Every British and low-production car in the world used the same Lucas motor (or a variation of it), and the same gearboxes, with only minor tweaks for different cars (the chrome bezel on the gearbox may have had different angles to accomodate different windshield angles). I have experience with them because they were used on the De Tomaso Pantera (and the Mangusta too, I believe), but they were also used on every Jaguar, AC, Cobra, Hillman, Mini, etc. etc. etc. ad infinitum. So if you happen to be in a country other than England, a local (or local-ish) vintage British car parts supplier (particularly Jaguar) should be able to hook you right up.
Page "V" (that's the letter Vee, not Roman numeral 5) of the original factory parts book shows the setup for the wiper system, presumably in its original orientation. It shows the wiper motor mounted on the left side of the car, with the cable running through the housing to the gearbox, entering it from the left of course. It also shows the standard Lucas washer bottle, screen pump and bracket; based on the drawing apparently it was mounted somewhere with the bracket facing aft, and the bottle facing forward, with the pump on the right side and filler on the left. This part is also common to every British car on the planet, easy to find, and cheap.
Cheers!
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12-29-06, 03:04 AM
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| | CraigB Bronze Supporter 
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Rep Power: 4  | Re: Lucas Wiper Motor Placement Hope this works, I've just posted a copy of "page Vee" from the parts book in the gallery section. Will try to put a link into this thread for it.
BTW the original 1965 price was £7 0s 0d for the motor, 12s for the gearbox, 7d for the bundy tube and £1 13s 0d for the wiper arm and blade (all old style money before we decimalised) 
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