GT40s.com
MK-I  MK-II  MK-III  MK-IV  GULF  MIRAGE  J-CAR  LOLA
GT40s.com
Home Forum Gallery Member Rides Support GT40s.com  
Register FAQ Members List Advertisers Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Go Back   GT40s.com > GT40 Technical Forums > GT40 Tech - Engines/Induction/Exhaust

Notices

GT40 Tech - Engines/Induction/Exhaust Motors and engine related - right here!

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-07-05, 06:51 PM   #1 (permalink)
Tom_Boy
2 Tenths
United States
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: DFW, Texas
GT40: Ex-CAV
Posts: 216
Rep Power: 8 Tom_Boy is on a distinguished road
Keith Craft 331 Econo Stroker Motor

Hi guy’s,

Here’s a recent dyno run I wanted to post.

Keith Craft 331 ‘Econo Stroker’. Has a Ford Motorsport Aluminum intake and a Holley Street Avenger 670 carb. Needs a bigger 850 manual secondary DiVinci or Holly HP according to the guy’s (Drew & Michael) at the Keith Craft shop in Dallas. If I did that, they believe I could pull +/- 340HP at the rear wheels.

TFS hyd roller cam Intake – 339 @ valve 542 – Duration286
Exhaust- 352 @ valve 563 – Duration 294
Rocker Ratio 1.6
Lunati street race rods
Scat cast crank
28oz balance
Mahle 4.030 flat top pistons
AFR 165 aluminum heads

Air temp was 42-49 degrees and 29.5% humidity

Run 1 – Car warm from drive over-too lean
HP-311.70 TQ-310.55

Run 2 – Car hot – Fresh fuel in secondary bowls-too lean
HP-312.60 TQ-310.13

Run 3 – Car hot – Manually opened vacuum secondaries-Too lean
HP-324.55 TQ-325.88

Run 4 – Re-jetted and air filter off – Car warm-richer
HP-316.60 TQ-322.42

Run 5 – Re-jetted and air filter on (K&N with filter top – Car hot-Fuel just right
HP-307.38 TQ-308.51

I'll take some pic's of the dyno run sheets & try to post them for you all this week end.
Tom_Boy is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-05, 07:02 PM   #2 (permalink)
Tom_Boy
2 Tenths
United States
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: DFW, Texas
GT40: Ex-CAV
Posts: 216
Rep Power: 8 Tom_Boy is on a distinguished road
Re: Keith Craft 331 Econo Stroker Motor

Oh... Ignition... Autolite dual point w/Petronix. Light springs. all in at 2,800 RPM. Timing, 38 degrees at 3,000 RPM
Tom_Boy is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-05, 07:24 PM   #3 (permalink)
Ron Earp's Avatar
Ron Earp
Site Administrator
United States
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Posts: 3,925
Rep Power: 57 Ron Earp has disabled reputation
Re: Keith Craft 331 Econo Stroker Motor

What sort of RPM are you getting numbers at and where does it drop off? I'd think that was enough carb for the motor and cam, particularily the heads as well. My guess is you might make a few more rear wheel ponies with a larger carb at the expense of some drivability and low-end torque.
Ron Earp is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-05, 11:42 PM   #4 (permalink)
Tom_Boy
2 Tenths
United States
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: DFW, Texas
GT40: Ex-CAV
Posts: 216
Rep Power: 8 Tom_Boy is on a distinguished road
Re: Keith Craft 331 Econo Stroker Motor

Good point Ron. With the 165 AFR's, I am sure that there is good velocity through the carb/intake/heads. Bigger would surely lose some peppy-ness.

Torque is pretty flat 3,000 to 6,100. HP peaks at 5,500 and is flat till about 6,400.
Tom_Boy is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-05, 12:00 PM   #5 (permalink)
Faili F's Avatar
Faili F
6 Tenths
Islamic Republic Of Iran
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Axis Of Evil
GT40: A Fake one
Posts: 699
Rep Power: 14 Faili F is a splendid one to behold
Re: Keith Craft 331 Econo Stroker Motor

Tom, Great numbers, do you recall if the Dyno was a Dynojet or Dynamics? Also, what rear tires/wheels sizes do you have. And last, what gear where the pulls done at (I am assuming it is an Audi Trans).
Anything above 300 at the rear wheels is pretty damn good.

Thanks,
Faili F is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-05, 02:30 PM   #6 (permalink)
Tom_Boy
2 Tenths
United States
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: DFW, Texas
GT40: Ex-CAV
Posts: 216
Rep Power: 8 Tom_Boy is on a distinguished road
Re: Keith Craft 331 Econo Stroker Motor

Hi Falli...

It was a Dynojet. I have 15 inch rears with 295x50x15 Goodyears on 10 in BRM's. It is an Audi Getrag transaxle and the puls were done in 4th gear, about 2,500 rpm to 6,500 rpm. It is a hybris Audi, with a different ring & pinion mated to the best ratio box. I'll try to snap the pic's asap, and also have the run files on a diskette that I can work with once I load them down.
Tom_Boy is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-05, 09:53 PM   #7 (permalink)
A Tenth
United States
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
GT40: Louisville, Kentucky
Posts: 116
Rep Power: 8 jercarnut is on a distinguished road
Re: Keith Craft 331 Econo Stroker Motor

T, the 331 are easily cable of 420 to 425 horsepower. I have the 331 in my RF. We pulled 340 wheel horsepower on a mustang dyno a couple of years ago. We preferred the 331 as do a lot of road racers with it 1.63 rod riot. These little motors will last for ever. We run solid lifter cams with a little bit longer duration. We twist these motors to 71 or 7200 with no real modification the oiling system. Keith Craft has a excellent rep. You will be very happy with his motor. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Happy horsepower
jercarnut is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-05, 10:30 PM   #8 (permalink)
Tom_Boy
2 Tenths
United States
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: DFW, Texas
GT40: Ex-CAV
Posts: 216
Rep Power: 8 Tom_Boy is on a distinguished road
Re: Keith Craft 331 Econo Stroker Motor

Ok,

Here are the individual run sheets!
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	50000-Run-1.JPG
Views:	146
Size:	84.2 KB
ID:	9633  
Tom_Boy is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-05, 10:31 PM   #9 (permalink)
Tom_Boy
2 Tenths
United States
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: DFW, Texas
GT40: Ex-CAV
Posts: 216
Rep Power: 8 Tom_Boy is on a distinguished road
Re: Keith Craft 331 Econo Stroker Motor

Run-2
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	50001-Run-2.JPG
Views:	153
Size:	72.1 KB
ID:	9634  
Tom_Boy is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-05, 10:36 PM   #10 (permalink)
Tom_Boy
2 Tenths
United States
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: DFW, Texas
GT40: Ex-CAV
Posts: 216
Rep Power: 8 Tom_Boy is on a distinguished road
Re: Keith Craft 331 Econo Stroker Motor

Run-3
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	50002-Run-3.JPG
Views:	143
Size:	75.8 KB
ID:	9635  
Tom_Boy is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-05, 10:37 PM   #11 (permalink)
Tom_Boy
2 Tenths
United States
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: DFW, Texas
GT40: Ex-CAV
Posts: 216
Rep Power: 8 Tom_Boy is on a distinguished road
Re: Keith Craft 331 Econo Stroker Motor

Run-4
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	50003-Run-4.JPG
Views:	160
Size:	72.5 KB
ID:	9636  
Tom_Boy is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-05, 10:38 PM   #12 (permalink)
Tom_Boy
2 Tenths
United States
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: DFW, Texas
GT40: Ex-CAV
Posts: 216
Rep Power: 8 Tom_Boy is on a distinguished road
Re: Keith Craft 331 Econo Stroker Motor

Run-5

--->Ron, please delete any of these pic's you believe are irrelavent to the post after a week or so... If no one has seen or read it by then, no big deal...
Thanks,
Tom
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	50004-Run-5.JPG
Views:	120
Size:	78.4 KB
ID:	9637  
Tom_Boy is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-05, 11:29 PM   #13 (permalink)
ricadona's Avatar
ricadona
A Tenth
Australia
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Perth Australia
GT40: Roaring Forties
Posts: 152
Rep Power: 7 ricadona is on a distinguished road
Re: Keith Craft 331 Econo Stroker Motor

Tom,
I noted with interest on the last run the significant drop off at the top end of the rev range where it looks as thought someone stepped off the gas. It is very similar to what mine did with the 8 bbl injection - Ref 347 dyno Results thread.

Cheers,
ricadona is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

 
Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:32 PM.