MK-I MK-II MK-III MK-IV GULF MIRAGE J-CAR LOLA
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06-10-07, 09:02 AM
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| | Scott Calabro Tonado USA Rep 
Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: New England GT40: TS40 # 875
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Rep Power: 13  | MK III Camshaft Hi all,
Anyone know the spec's of the MK III road car camshaft ?
Also when they were sold back in the day, what color was the engine block painted ?
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06-10-07, 09:14 AM
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| | JIMMYMAC Lifetime Premier Supporter 
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Rep Power: 17   | Re: MK III Camshaft Scott,
The block was painted early Ford USA pale blue.
__________________ Cordially, James MKI monocoque. XE' 289 short blocks, C6FE heads, Webers, ZF Graviner Fire Suppression |
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06-10-07, 09:27 AM
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| | Scott Calabro Tonado USA Rep 
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Rep Power: 13  | Re: MK III Camshaft Thank you James.
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06-10-07, 10:47 AM
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| | A Tenth 
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Rep Power: 5  | Re: MK III Camshaft I haven't located the specs yet, but in an old road test of the car, the description (306 hp) leads me to believe it was a regular Hi-Po 289 cam.
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06-10-07, 11:31 AM
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| | Gary Kadrmas Silver Supporter 
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| Re: MK III Camshaft Scott,
I agree with WDZ. Still a good overall cam, but if you are going to want to go beyond 5K RPM with a little seriousness, go for the LeMans cam.
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06-10-07, 01:33 PM
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| | Scott Calabro Tonado USA Rep 
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Rep Power: 13  | Re: MK III Camshaft Thanks Guy's,
Gary, don't worry it's going pull right to 7500. Oh and by the way the margaritas were great  .
Woodzy if you come across those spec's in your spare time I'd sure appreciate it !
Best regards,
Scott
Last edited by Scott Calabro; 06-10-07 at 01:48 PM.
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06-10-07, 04:51 PM
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| | jac mac 10 tenths 
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Rep Power: 23   | Re: MK III Camshaft The Ford Tractors of the 60/70 era were painted a light blue ( 3000-4000 etc), when first applied it looks too dark and bright but once its had a couple of heat cycles it seems to adopt a similar shade to the colour your looking for, I do know its what the Aussies used for the GTHO Falcons back in the early 70's.
I have a gut feeling that the 306hp version may have a different cam,but I could be wrong.
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06-10-07, 04:55 PM
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| | A Tenth 
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Rep Power: 5  | Re: MK III Camshaft Quote:
Originally Posted by jac mac I have a gut feeling that the 306hp version may have a different cam,but I could be wrong.
Jac Mac | In the MKIII GT40 it may have, although the 306hp GT350s used the Hi-Po cam(271hp). The increase to 306 was attributed to the single 4bbl Aluminum intake, 715 Holley and headers. So I lean towards the Hi-Po cam. Now that I'm off the Caterpillar for the day, I'll search a little more.
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06-10-07, 05:03 PM
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| | JIMMYMAC Lifetime Premier Supporter 
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Rep Power: 17   | Re: MK III Camshaft The engine paint I use is.
Duplicolor DE1601 - Ford Blue
You can just about see the original block colour in this photo
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06-10-07, 05:04 PM
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| | Scott Calabro Tonado USA Rep 
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Rep Power: 13  | Re: MK III Camshaft Hey woodzy... "If its not a CAT, its a dog!!!"
Cheers and thanks for the help.
Scott |
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06-10-07, 06:05 PM
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| | A Tenth 
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Rep Power: 5  | Re: MK III Camshaft After going through the old article, British magazine Autocar 1972 (Richard Feast,writer), it states that it is the Hi-Po 289 (4.7 litre in Brit talk) equipped in the same manner as the GT350 I referenced in an earlier post. Basic specs for that cam(from an old O.H.O. book) are 310* w/.460 lift( the first Muscle parts book says .450). I would probably get one of the "cheater" or "blueprinted" cams that many cam grinders make for the engine so it can be run as a stock or Super Stock in NHRA competition. The LeMans cam referenced in another post has specs (from the first Muscle Parts book) of 318* in./304* ex. and .510 lift. Odd that within a year or 2 after it was made (C7FE #) they moved to split duration cams that favored the ex., while this one favors the in. These are advertised specs and not at .050 lift as is the standard practice now. If you want I can post all the relevent data regarding the events. I do know that several of the prominent cam companies offer the cheater/blueprinted cams I mentioned earlier and I'm sure they perform better than what the originals did.
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06-10-07, 06:09 PM
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| | A Tenth 
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Rep Power: 5  | Re: MK III Camshaft Quote:
Originally Posted by 5150 Hey woodzy... "If its not a CAT, its a dog!!!"
Scott | This is a D2, a little older than me and runs really sweet....now the starter engine is quite raucous and it's hard to hear the diesel fire up over the starter engine exhaust. It has made moving 30 + truckloads of dirt around much easier than with the little Yanmar :-).
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06-10-07, 07:26 PM
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| | Scott Calabro Tonado USA Rep 
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Rep Power: 13  | Re: MK III Camshaft Thanks woodzy.
No need to post full valve timing events, I get the picture.
I tease my buddy who has a Komatsu 40 ton excavator all the time.
He gets pissed !!
Cheers,
Scott |
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06-10-07, 07:33 PM
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| | Gary Kadrmas Silver Supporter 
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| Re: MK III Camshaft Woodz428,
No experience on a D2, but I have run a TD-6, quite smaller, but still a kick in the pants. Amazing the amount of power it has over my 30HP Kubota.
As far as the LeMans Cam, I bought mine in 1972, and the specs were with the cam in the cam box from Cobra Performance.
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