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Old 2nd March 2018, 09:09 AM   #1
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Premade BUNDLE OF SNAKES?

Hey Guys

Is it possible to buy a readymade bundle of snakes for a 302 SBF + ZF5? My pal paid $7500 to have his custom made but his was for a Coyote so im hoping the SBF has a cheaper prefabricated option.

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Old 2nd March 2018, 10:30 AM   #2
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Re: Premade BUNDLE OF SNAKES?

Search on this site, there are a couple of vendors who can provide pre-made systems in both mild and stainless. Also check with Firefly Firefly Stainless Steel performance pipes have been designed
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Old 2nd March 2018, 11:06 AM   #3
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Re: Premade BUNDLE OF SNAKES?

Hi Vinax, the header sets are made to fit with the engine and transaxle you are planning to use. I know Race Car Replicas offers sets to fit with ZF, Audi, and Ricardo tranaxles.
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Old 2nd March 2018, 11:06 AM   #4
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$7500 for a pair of headers!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? Geez, that sounds like a lot.

Firefly is about $4500 for a pair.

And I've talked to Chris Schneider at this company and they'll do a complete custom job for between $3800-$5000. Stainless Works Performance Exhaust, Headers and Fabrication

And I'm sure there is a custom fabricator around you in Texas.

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Old 2nd March 2018, 11:22 AM   #5
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Re: Premade BUNDLE OF SNAKES?

Vinax

We have full systems available from 1350

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Old 2nd March 2018, 12:48 PM   #6
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Re: Premade BUNDLE OF SNAKES?

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Hey Guys

Is it possible to buy a readymade bundle of snakes for a 302 SBF? My pal paid $7500 to have his custom made but his was for a Coyote so im hoping the SBF has a cheaper prefabricated option.

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Dang, I need to get into the header-making business.
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Dang, I need to get into the header-making business.
My thoughts as well, but wait, that's one of many things Ive done over the years! Hell I built the whole exhaust system on the TVR from scratch for a fraction of that, unfortunately NZ does not seem to have people that are that spendy spendy...
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Re: Premade BUNDLE OF SNAKES?

At one time Fran Kress had some available in original spec.
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Old 2nd March 2018, 03:24 PM   #9
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Hi Vinax, the header sets are made to fit with the engine and transaxle you are planning to use. I know Race Car Replicas offers sets to fit with ZF, Audi, and Ricardo tranaxles.
Im looking for SBF + ZF
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Old 2nd March 2018, 03:32 PM   #10
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$7500 for a pair of headers!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? Geez, that sounds like a lot.
The Coyote is very tight. Need a lot of time and effort to do it. But yet 7500 is too much. SBF + ZF should be a lot easier even if forced to go all custom in the end.
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Old 2nd March 2018, 05:17 PM   #11
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Re: Premade BUNDLE OF SNAKES?

We have full coyote systems for 1950

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Old 2nd March 2018, 05:44 PM   #12
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Re: Premade BUNDLE OF SNAKES?

Anyone do a set for an LS3?
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Old 16th March 2018, 12:37 AM   #13
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Re: Premade BUNDLE OF SNAKES?

I just got a set from J P Headers in SS. A very nice fit in a CAV. They have a site.
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OP,
You SHOULD take your car to the fabricator to have them made unless they are from the same chassis manufacturer you have. A set of headers from one chassis manufacturer may not fit a different chassis without modifications.......... (similar to the replica body parts, they are all slightly different)
Just an FYI, Scott
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Re: Premade BUNDLE OF SNAKES?

Buy yourself an IC engine works kit and make your own it's not that hard. I made mine and Just made a set for my cobra from the same kit .
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Re: Premade BUNDLE OF SNAKES?

I will have a set available for a SBF that are provided with a Superformance roller. My engine has the Gurney Heads so they don't work. PM me if interested.
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Old 26th April 2018, 02:39 PM   #17
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I will have a set available for a SBF that are provided with a Superformance roller. My engine has the Gurney Heads so they don't work. PM me if interested.
Ron are your SBF bundle of snakes still available..? If so Please call or text me at 305-986-2968. Thank you
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Old 26th April 2018, 05:48 PM   #18
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Re: Premade BUNDLE OF SNAKES?

Adding my .02 cents here.....for you EFI guys, that exhaust needs to be air-tight, i.e. no leaks, no dependency on Hi-Temp silicone, etc. Any undesired oxygen (leak) will get picked up by the very sensitive wide-band O2 sensor and play havoc with your target Air-Fuel ratio, which can result in the car running pig rich. So a good quality stainless exhaust with DOUBLE-SLIP joints at the primary-collector union, and preferably V-band clamps at the Collector-Muffler union will work extremely well.

Now, the more advanced ECU/FADECs can be set to open loop in some or all rpm/load scenarios by a competent tuner, however, that is not the intent of EFI, so remember....Shit in-Shit out!
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Adding my .02 cents here.....for you EFI guys, that exhaust needs to be air-tight, i.e. no leaks, no dependency on Hi-Temp silicone, etc. Any undesired oxygen (leak) will get picked up by the very sensitive wide-band O2 sensor and play havoc with your target Air-Fuel ratio, which can result in the car running pig rich. So a good quality stainless exhaust with DOUBLE-SLIP joints at the primary-collector union, and preferably V-band clamps at the Collector-Muffler union will work extremely well.

Now, the more advanced ECU/FADECs can be set to open loop in some or all rpm/load scenarios by a competent tuner, however, that is not the intent of EFI, so remember....Shit in-Shit out!
Well... If you have a leak the backpressure in the exhaustsystem will cause gasses to leak out, not air to enter the system. Unless you have some sort of a ejector causing negative pressure in the exhaust. So it won't make that big difference.

Anyways it is better to have it free from leakages :-)
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Re: Premade BUNDLE OF SNAKES?

Hello Ole,
Unfortunately, it does not work that way with these systems. Also, there is little to no back pressure in a GT-40 bundle of snakes. You can try placing a piece of paper or your hand next to the exhaust outlet and watch or feel the pulses and the negative pressure between the pulses. However, the air going up the exhaust is usually too far from the sensor to be picked up and it reverses direction quickly. Leaks close to the O2 sensor (Collector union) will get picked up.

Most all the EFI forums will discuss the consequences of leaky exhausts if you guys need to research further...
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