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01-02-06, 07:47 PM
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| | PDub 6 Tenths 
Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: London, UK GT40: Tornado
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Rep Power: 12  | Front number plates. As it's now time for me to fit some plates on my car I'm trying to work out the best method for the front of the car. I'm not a fan of the sticker type that goes on the nose of the car - any suggestions/pics welcome. I know legally in the UK you are supposed to have one but is anybody driving without ?
Another idea I have seen is to mount some mesh in front of the radiator to protect against stones e.t.c. and fix digits on or spray it on. |
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01-02-06, 08:02 PM
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| | simonjrwinter 10 tenths 
Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Essex, UK GT40: GTD
Posts: 1,900
Rep Power: 26  | Re: Front number plates. Hi Paul,
Friend of mine had a cobra with a scratched up number plate in the boot. The plan was to say "sorry officer it fell off, look I'm just on my way home to fit it back on..."
He never got stopped once in five years!!!!
(of course that would be illegal) [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] |
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01-03-06, 02:05 AM
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| | Chris Liokos 7 Tenths 
Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Australia GT40: RF40
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Rep Power: 15  | Re: Front number plates. The laws in Australia are quite definite about where and how to fix a front number plate. It goes on-and-on about angles and visibility, but then it ends with a comment about there being an exception where it is impractical to do so. This may not apply in the UK but it may still pay to closely read your rule book... and then it would also pay to keep a copy of the rules in the car for the day when you get pulled over.
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01-03-06, 07:18 AM
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| | simonjrwinter 10 tenths 
Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Essex, UK GT40: GTD
Posts: 1,900
Rep Power: 26  | Re: Front number plates. A small aluminium bracket, fixed inside the nose will make the numberplate as unobtrusive as possible (and I don't think causes any cooling problems) the front plate has been fixed to both my GTD's this way, although it must be said the B&W plates look MUCH better
Simon |
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01-03-06, 07:18 AM
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| | simonjrwinter 10 tenths 
Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Essex, UK GT40: GTD
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Rep Power: 26  | Re: Front number plates. Close, brighter pic |
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01-03-06, 01:23 PM
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| | wealdenengineer 10 tenths 
Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: East Sussex, UK
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Rep Power: 0  | Re: Front number plates. See pictures of plates I made for Robin and Andrew on my website. These are a made on a very light frame to which the numbers are fixed, air can pass through this structure to the radiator, which is painted black to make the legal background. Never had a heat related problem and legal. Frank |
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01-03-06, 04:48 PM
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| | Brian Magee Bronze Supporter 
Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Newbury England GT40: GTD
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Rep Power: 12  | Re: Front number plates. Paul
Another idea. Have you got Fortification No.61? It has a picture of Max's car on the front. He has no number plate as such, it just has plastic numbers and letters attached to the grill mesh.
Brian. |
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01-03-06, 06:08 PM
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| | PDub 6 Tenths 
Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: London, UK GT40: Tornado
Posts: 660
Rep Power: 12  | Re: Front number plates. Thanks for the ideas fellas, I think I'll get the mesh in there and see what I fancy. |
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01-03-06, 07:08 PM
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| | wealdenengineer 10 tenths 
Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: East Sussex, UK
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Rep Power: 0  | Re: Front number plates. Paul, I suggest forget mesh unless you can afford to lose 30% airflow to the rad ! |
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01-03-06, 09:36 PM
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| | PDub 6 Tenths 
Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: London, UK GT40: Tornado
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Rep Power: 12  | Re: Front number plates. Crikey is it really that much ? I was thinking maybe the stainless woven mesh. Anybody ever had stones damage their rad or is it me just being paranoid ? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smoke.gif[/img] |
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01-04-06, 03:47 AM
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| | delaneyp Peter D 
Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Sydney, Australia GT40: DRB #27
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Rep Power: 21  | Re: Front number plates. I got away with no front plate for a year, but then decided that was enough of asking for trouble.
So I did much the same as Simon, but mounted the plate on 2 very thin bent s/s brackets. The plate stands up at a reasonable angle when the car is stationary, but only takes the slightest pressure to get it to lie down almost flat.
I tried to figure out a way of using hinges & springs, but that all got too hard - hence the "springy brackets".
Whilst I haven't yet got around to getting someone to take a photo at speed to prove it works, I have found that it has made absolutely no difference to the coolant temps at all - even during our heat-wave conditions over the last month or so (over 35degC).
Its cheap & easy (but I do like Simon's friend's approach of the scratched up plate - so cheeky) !
Kind Regards,
Peter D. |
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01-04-06, 07:30 AM
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| | simonjrwinter 10 tenths 
Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Essex, UK GT40: GTD
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Rep Power: 26  | Re: Front number plates. [ QUOTE ]
even during our heat-wave conditions over the last month or so (over 35degC)
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You can go off people you know [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
Simon |
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01-04-06, 08:11 AM
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| | p thompson Administrator 
Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Milland, West S GT40: None
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| Re: Front number plates. [ QUOTE ]
(but I do like Simon's friend's approach of the scratched up plate - so cheeky)!
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I too like the cheek of attempting the suggestion, however my experience of PC plod is less than forgiving and if the area where the plate was supposed to 'have just fallen from' was as clean or dirty as the surrounding area, I don't think they'd buy it! - they ain't as stupid as we would sometimes think... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img](mostly!)... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]
I would have thought a 'flip-down-flip-up' plate could be arranged fairly easily using the sort of return spring fitted to a throttle shaft (not sure of type name)...
another edit -
just looked up the spring type - 'torsion'
view them at http://www.engineersedge.com/spring_torsion_calc.htm |
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01-04-06, 08:56 AM
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| | ckouba 6 Tenths 
Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Phoenix, AZ, USA GT40: RCR40-31
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Rep Power: 11  | Re: Front number plates. How about suspended from the top of the rad opening with a simple piano hinge?
CK |
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01-04-06, 09:15 AM
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| | IanAnderson Gold Supporter 
Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Heathrow, Londo GT40: Dax 40 Mk1 (Rov
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Rep Power: 19  | Re: Front number plates. Instead of springs
What about a number plate hinged at the top and hanging in the opening of the "mouth"
As the car moves the number plate would swing back with air pressure and return curtesy of gravity!
Only problem would be if you park the car nose to the wind in a force 5 gale!
Ian |
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01-04-06, 10:18 AM
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| | ckouba 6 Tenths 
Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Phoenix, AZ, USA GT40: RCR40-31
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Rep Power: 11  | Re: Front number plates. Sounds suspicioiusly like what I was just mentioning above!!! |
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01-04-06, 05:25 PM
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| | IanAnderson Gold Supporter 
Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Heathrow, Londo GT40: Dax 40 Mk1 (Rov
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Rep Power: 19  | Re: Front number plates. Chris
Yes exactly the same
I was posting at work - hit reply and then "work" got in the way for 15 mins before I finished typing and hit submit!
I hate when WORK gets in the way of important stuff!
Ian |
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01-05-06, 01:02 PM
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| | Keith1 I Have No Life 
Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: England GT40: Nein
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Rep Power: 27   | Re: Front number plates. Well that's what I would go for - sounds as if it would be quite simple to "tune" as well.
I know, we'll call it the "Koubian" Number Plate System in both your honour's. Respect. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flehan.gif[/img] |
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01-05-06, 01:18 PM
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| | Lifetime Premier Supporter 
Join Date: Jul 2002 GT40: New York
Posts: 775
Rep Power: 16   | Re: Front number plates. I used to own a slant nose Porsche with the front plate suspended with two plastic wire ties. Plate moved with the wind. Was stopped only once when the plate hung up out of sight. Mount was simple and clean with no visible holes. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/twocents.gif[/img] |
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01-09-06, 09:47 AM
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| | ckouba 6 Tenths 
Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Phoenix, AZ, USA GT40: RCR40-31
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Rep Power: 11  | Re: Front number plates. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/lol.gif[/img]
Thanks Keith. I hope the legacy endures.
Chris |
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