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Old 12-11-06, 01:36 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Angry This Weeks Stupid Award Goes To Me!!

After painstakingly fitting and trimming my RHD headlamp cover, I broke the cover while drilling the mounting holes. I apparently put too much pressure on the drill while drilling the hole and it went "SNAP"!

This is to alert others who have not installed theirs to press "lightly" to avoid ruining their parts.

Now I have to get another cover from Fran and start over. I'm really pissed at myself.



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Old 12-11-06, 01:41 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: This Weeks Stupid Award Goes To Me!!

Bill,

Don't feel like the lone wolf! Luckily, my cracks didn't go that far. You'll want to be careful when tightening the screws upon mounting as well; I cracked a couple of mine doing that.

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Old 12-11-06, 01:52 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: This Weeks Stupid Award Goes To Me!!

Bill - it's VERY easy to crack these, the last hole I drilled in the passenger side headlamp cover produced a 1/2" long crack, almost not worthy of replacing but definately enough to piss me off.

I found that drilling the holes in the covers just slightly larger than the screw worked best.

I bought another...

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Re: This Weeks Stupid Award Goes To Me!!

I guess I had better stop off at FedEx on the way home then......
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Re: This Weeks Stupid Award Goes To Me!!

One alternative to drilling is to find a thin wall brass tube (either from a hobby shop or Ace Hardware's K&S tubing display) that is the diameter of the hole you need. Sharpen the edge (the inside edge ideally, using a jewelers file), attach to a soldering iron (a 15 watt one for electronics) with a couple of hose clamps and you can then gently "hot bore" out the holes you need. Adjust the heat as required by shortening or lengthening the tube to suit your soldering iron.

This generally leaves a pretty clean hole, with some flash on the bottom that can be cleaned up (or left as is if you are using a foam gasket). If you want it to be perfect, you can start with an undersize tube take a small dremel burr to get to the final dimension - @ low rpms.

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Old 12-11-06, 03:19 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: This Weeks Stupid Award Goes To Me!!

Bill,

There's NO way you're the first one down this path and, before reading Al's comment, I knew I was destined to the same results!

An oversize bore using heated tubing sounds like just the ticket. Great suggestions, guys.

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Old 12-11-06, 03:30 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Re: This Weeks Stupid Award Goes To Me!!

Anyone who has drilled enough holes in plastic has had that happen eventually.

One thing that helps is to use a plastic drilling bit. There are lots around and although it doesn't guarantee a perfect result, it helps a lot. You may have already known about or indeed used these already, but in case you didn't:

http://www.rplastics.com/plasticdrill.html
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Re: This Weeks Stupid Award Goes To Me!!

Bill.
Try a hand tapping chuck with the drill bit - slower but without the pressure ?
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Re: This Weeks Stupid Award Goes To Me!!

Get a plastic bit or take a dremmel grinding wheel and flatten the "bite" out of a regular twist bit. If you look closely at a plastic bit, you'll see that it is somewhere between a twist bit and a paddle bit.

If you can do it without electrocuting yourself, you might try a tiny water stream to keep everything cool so that the bit can't bite. But I think if you'll use a slow speed on a variable, you'll be OK.

There should be a thread on this that I started back when I was doing mine as well.

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Re: This Weeks Stupid Award Goes To Me!!

I have the correct drill bits to do the job. However, I wasn't paying attention to the amount of pressure I was applying to the drill.
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Old 12-11-06, 05:36 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Re: This Weeks Stupid Award Goes To Me!!

Hi Bill,
Check out this site, they can supply all your drill/lens/window/cleaning needs.
www.lpaero.com
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Re: This Weeks Stupid Award Goes To Me!!

I think we all empathise with you Bill.
I was so pleased with myself when I managed to drill all the covers without incident when I re-built my 40. Accurately making card templates as I had to match the new covers and their respective holes to the existing holes in the painted body, gently warming the plastic , and ever so carefully guiding the drill bit through .....only to crack one the minute I tightened that final turn of the screw !!!
Note to self : Use Nut/Screw lock everywhere !!
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Check out this site, they can supply all your drill/lens/window/cleaning needs.
www.lpaero.com
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We should get these type of resources added to the links page. The are very useful and often a pain to find via the search.

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Re: This Weeks Stupid Award Goes To Me!!

Bill, if that cover was acrylic then you need to use either a dull drill bit or have it sharpened much diff. than you would say one for metal. The problem is when you are "breaking" through the other side, the drill bit tends to grab. The other thing is to keep pressure around the drill bit as it breaks the opposite surface. I;'v been working with plexiglas for about 25 years. It's happened to me to.
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Not stupid on your part...I think every method could produce cracks, and if your like me a little diversion can produce drastic results...so carry on and call it experience. By the way I only make one mistake a year...I am up to the year 2700 or so by now.
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Oh Bill...

I believe I take the stupid award of the week. I was mountain biking with a buddy on a technical trail with some large exposures and we got through the tricky parts (most of them...). I pulled off a really cool move down a little technical step and was yapping to my buddy about it when my front wheel got wedged into a rock. I was stopped instantly and immediately started losing balance. Also, I had paid too much attention to the conversation to notice the 8' cliff (that's about 2.5m to you metric people) that I proceeded to fall over.

I ended up tumbling around 20'-25' (call it ~7m) with the roll-out at the end, landing (MIRACULOUSLY) on a sloper rock, missing an old tree trunk and the majority of sharp rocks, sliding right onto the trail which switched-backed below us. Got a gash on my right wrist, charlie horses on my right quad and left calf, and a bit of rock rash on my back, shins and knee. I also took a hell of a direct shot to my helmet (which will now be replaced) and knocked apart my front derailleur shifter.

I walked away and everything was functional. I was in awe. I had been thinking about broken legs, head trauma, internal bleeding on my way to the ground but I came out (relatively) unscathed. Since all was good, we made quite light of the situation with a bunch of pics. It could have been MUCH worse.

The moral- don't get distracted, don't lose focus, wait til you're done to shout out your triumphs, and if you're gonna stack it, make sure you have a soft place to crash.

The other moral- Make sure you're riding partner is an ER doc

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Re: This Weeks Stupid Award Goes To Me!!

Bill,
Chris has clearly outdone you. Nice try but no cigar.

Chris,
I've known you long enough to say "what the HELL are you thinking!?!"

I've been with you off-road and remember being impressed with your ability (and a large right foot) but this is way, WAY past that. Very glad to learn you're okay but will be more pleased to find out that your mom has taken you over her knee and given you the walloping you so clearly deserve.

Note to all: Watch out for those sharp drill bits - and rocks, too.

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