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01-03-08, 01:02 PM
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| | spud Rookie 
Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New York, USA GT40: Gardner Douglas T70
Posts: 55
Rep Power: 4  | dashboard switch labels I'm getting to the point of installing the dash on my GDT70, and am looking for some thoughts on putting a finish on the alloy panel. Namely, I've been thinking about painting it with black crinkle paint, which I think would look vintage and cool. However, I assume that adhesive switch labels will not stick to crinkle paint.
Any thoughts on switch labels (lights,dip,brake test, fog lights etc etc) that would either stick to the paint, not require sticking, or perhaps preparation which would allow labels to stick? Or is crinkle paint in the dash a bad idea?
Thoughts appreciated in advance!
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01-03-08, 01:44 PM
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| | Bill D I Have No Life 
Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Camarillo, CA
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Rep Power: 34   | Re: dashboard switch labels I had a company called Aircraft Engravers make me some adhesive backed panels for my RCR GT40. Here is what they made for me:
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01-03-08, 02:06 PM
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| | spud Rookie 
Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New York, USA GT40: Gardner Douglas T70
Posts: 55
Rep Power: 4  | Re: dashboard switch labels Bill,
Looks nice! Are these plates made of plastic or aluminum? Either way, I think I could adapt them to my set up.
Thanks!
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01-03-08, 02:13 PM
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| | Gary Kadrmas Silver Supporter 
Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Oregon, USA GT40: Not yet, but so
Posts: 712
Rep Power: 13   | Re: dashboard switch labels Bill,
It looks like you made up the plate (drilled holes for the switches ect), then sprayed the surface we see, then sent it off to AE......???? That way, they knew where to scribe the marks.....????
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01-03-08, 02:19 PM
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| | Bill D I Have No Life 
Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Camarillo, CA
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Rep Power: 34   | Re: dashboard switch labels Actually, I made a dimensional drawing with where the holes go and what markings I wanted. They then made the labels just as you see them. They come adhesive backed. I glued them to the aluminum panels made for the dash. They are .060 plastic (2 layers - under is white, top is matte black)
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01-05-08, 05:02 PM
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| | Jim C Gold Supporter 
Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: SYDNEY, AUSTRAL GT40: RF 105
Posts: 521
Rep Power: 9  | Re: dashboard switch labels I sell these labels.
They fit under the top ring.
This is an old pic and I have made some changes but it gives you the idea.
13 in a set.
Comes with labels for lamps as well.
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01-05-08, 10:24 PM
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| | Sandy Gulf GT40 
Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA GT40: RCR GT40 Gulf
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Rep Power: 18  | Re: dashboard switch labels Tom if lazy you can go the Dymo lable route. You can find the machines and tape on ebay. Sorta' looks cool. BillD's plates are really nice too, just too lazy to do the drawings to make them. The Dymo lables look very vintage too. RCR40 Dashboard
That is where some other shots of the dash is.
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01-06-08, 12:04 PM
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| | Rookie 
Join Date: Mar 2005 GT40: lancs
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Rep Power: 4  | Re: dashboard switch labels ''Tom if lazy you can go the Dymo lable route. You can find the machines and tape on ebay. Sorta' looks cool. BillD's plates are really nice too, just too lazy to do the drawings to make them. The Dymo lables look very vintage too.''
I may be wrong but Dymo are authentic too..... |
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01-06-08, 12:19 PM
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| | Big-Foot Gold Supporter 
Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Minneapolis, MN GT40: Replica
Posts: 1,399
| Re: dashboard switch labels I like Bill's labels a lot - I'm not sure that the Dymo labels will still be hanging on after a year or so as the adhesive is not that good anymore (I have Dymo labels on tool boxes etc that peel off after a while)... |
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01-14-08, 09:41 PM
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| | Mark Charlton Lifetime Premier Supporter 
Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada GT40: GTD #9988
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Rep Power: 10  | Re: dashboard switch labels Quote:
Originally Posted by spud I'm getting to the point of installing the dash on my GDT70, and am looking for some thoughts on putting a finish on the alloy panel... However, I assume that adhesive switch labels will not stick to crinkle paint.... Or is crinkle paint in the dash a bad idea?
Thoughts appreciated in advance!
Tom | Tom, you may find the crinkle paint gets hard to keep clean as although glue won't stick, dust and dirt will, and will be a bugger to get off.
If you are set on that route, what WILL work is to screen-print the label graphics onto the panel. It will require a decent quality screen-printer and this will not be your cheapest route, but it does produce what I think is a fairly "factory" result. And, no, my car does not have purple carpet. That's my basement floor.
Mark
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01-14-08, 10:03 PM
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| | russzx6 Rookie 
Join Date: May 2007 Location: Brisbane GT40: hope to one day
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Rep Power: 2  | Re: dashboard switch labels I had a person who makes electrical switchboard name plates engrave an aluminium panel i'd made up for a project with switch names and a ford symbol once, then i spraypainted mostly near the engraving and when it was dry, sanded it back with 1000grit wet and dry paper and a flat cork sanding block, then polished the aluminium, it came up awesome, as i used black paint in the switch locations, dark blue paint for the ford symbol, the paint sat lower that the aluminium so it maintained its gloss, just had to go slowly with the polishing so it didn't get too hot and bubble the paint. Sorry can't find a pic of it??. . .got one somewhere, will look harder and post it if i can find it |
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01-14-08, 10:27 PM
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| | steve c Steve 
Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Boston, Ma GT40: SPF GT40 P2125
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Rep Power: 7  | Re: dashboard switch labels Mark,
Great looking dash and panel.
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01-15-08, 10:14 AM
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| | Mark Charlton Lifetime Premier Supporter 
Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada GT40: GTD #9988
Posts: 426
Rep Power: 10  | Re: dashboard switch labels Quote:
Originally Posted by steve c Mark,
Great looking dash and panel.
Steve | Thanks Steve. This is the "before". Suitably "retro-ratty", but not quite as nice as I wanted.
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01-15-08, 01:19 PM
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| | CESLAW 3 Tenths 
Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Illinois
Posts: 369
Rep Power: 5  | Re: dashboard switch labels Mark:
Impressive dash! The before and after are rather dramatic. How difficult was the application of the leather?
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01-15-08, 01:50 PM
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| | Mark Charlton Lifetime Premier Supporter 
Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada GT40: GTD #9988
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Rep Power: 10  | Re: dashboard switch labels Thanks Chuck,
The leather was applied by GTD back in 1987. All I did was a strip and re-dye. I am very pleased with the results, as the original dash was dyed tan by GTD and later was over-coated with black. The original dye was lacquer-based, was cracking badly and had been poorly touched-up over the years. The leather itself was in quite good condition and still supple.
I had the refinisher really matte down the dye before applying it and it looks almost identical the the sheen of my seats after I had them re-covered with new leather.
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01-15-08, 10:17 PM
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| | spud Rookie 
Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New York, USA GT40: Gardner Douglas T70
Posts: 55
Rep Power: 4  | Re: dashboard switch labels Mark,
the before picture of your dash is what I am trying to avoid. The after picture looks fantastic, though I confess I don't know what screen printing is.
Jim, I do like your labels but the labels need to be above the switches, and some of the icons are not applicable to my switches. I need labels like High/Low beam, brake test, in addition to the standards like horn, ignition, wipers etc.
Thanks for the replies, guys.
Tom |
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02-16-08, 07:54 PM
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| | roclery 3 Tenths 
Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Perth, Western Australia
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Rep Power: 7  | Re: dashboard switch labels Tom, it would be great if you started a build diary for your T70 (apologies if you have and I've missed it), or do you have pictures/info somewhere on the www?
Thanks
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02-17-08, 01:51 PM
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| | spud Rookie 
Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New York, USA GT40: Gardner Douglas T70
Posts: 55
Rep Power: 4  | Re: dashboard switch labels Richard,
The wife just bought some Mac software which allows me to set up a web based gallery of pictures, which I will do in short order. Once finished, I'll let people know what the web address is.
Tom |
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02-25-08, 11:30 AM
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| | EverlastingBuild 
Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Essen, Germany GT40: KCC
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Rep Power: 2  | Re: dashboard switch labels Hi all,
there's a company in the UK that sells a lot of stuff for car builders, on page 25 of their catalogue ( [FONT='Arial','sans-serif']http://www.carbuildersolutions.co.uk/download/cataloguejuly2005.pdf[/font] ) there's a "legends sheet" with lots of words and symbols printed in white on transparent film... I don't have any personal experience with that but this is the way I planned to do it... at least as long as Mark won't explain me what screen-printing is ;-))) |
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