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01-28-08, 12:07 PM
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| | Bill D I Have No Life
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Rep Power: 32   | Epoxy Adhesive Question My aluminum mono tub is powdercoated. I want to epoxy on 4x9 fuel filler plates onto the sills to give the illusion of an original mono tub. Do I need to remove the powdercoating where the adhesive will go?
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Bill D
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01-28-08, 12:21 PM
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| | Big-Foot Gold Supporter
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| Re: Epoxy Adhesive Question Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill D My aluminum mono tub is powdercoated. I want to epoxy on 4x9 fuel filler plates onto the sills to give the illusion of an original mono tub. Do I need to remove the powdercoating where the adhesive will go?
Thanks
Bill D | I would think you'd be fine by just roughening up the PC where you want the epoxy to stick. |
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01-28-08, 12:26 PM
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Rep Power: 15  | Re: Epoxy Adhesive Question My two cents:
1. Call the powdercoater and ask his opinion;
2. Call the epoxy manufacturer and ask his opinion.
Epoxy's generally do not generate much heat when they cure, but I do not know what product you are using.
I have always found the BEST advice is to go to the source i.e the manufacturer regarding their product etc.
I would trust the epoxy manufacturer's advice over the powdercoater's advice. |
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01-28-08, 12:41 PM
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| | Bill D I Have No Life
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Rep Power: 32   | Re: Epoxy Adhesive Question I'm using JB Weld. I just got off the phone with them and they said all I have to do is rough up the powdercaoting and it will work.
Thanks guys.
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01-28-08, 02:05 PM
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| | David Morton Lifetime Premier Supporter
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| Re: Epoxy Adhesive Question Instead, try using Riv nuts - if you can. |
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01-28-08, 02:16 PM
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| | Bill D I Have No Life
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Rep Power: 32   | Re: Epoxy Adhesive Question Dave
I would like to, but it's the fuel tank. Drilling holes would result in a fuel leak
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01-28-08, 02:27 PM
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Rep Power: 15  | Re: Epoxy Adhesive Question Bill, Is there are reason why you did not epoxy the filler plates prior to powdercoating? |
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01-28-08, 02:52 PM
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| | 5 Tenths
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Rep Power: 10  | Re: Epoxy Adhesive Question Why not VHB adhesive tape? It is a 3M product. We use it to bind items to powdercoated aluminum. |
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01-28-08, 03:01 PM
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| | David Morton Lifetime Premier Supporter
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| Re: Epoxy Adhesive Question In which case as Mike says VHB. Nothing that I've use 3m's VHB on has ever come off again and it holds up some of the signs on the motorways here.
Surely your tank is below the skin on the sill / step area? |
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01-28-08, 03:13 PM
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| | Bill D I Have No Life
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Rep Power: 32   | Re: Epoxy Adhesive Question Gregg-
Because I'm polishing them to contrast with the black powdercoat.
Dave-
The tank is indeed below the skin. No bladder
I will look into the 3M VHB
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01-28-08, 03:22 PM
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Rep Power: 15  | Re: Epoxy Adhesive Question Bill, that is a good reason. |
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01-28-08, 06:27 PM
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| | Pantera1889 10 tenths
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Rep Power: 18   | Re: Epoxy Adhesive Question I roughed up the powdercoat and used JB weld. Worked like a charm!
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01-29-08, 12:22 PM
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| | Mark Charlton Lifetime Premier Supporter
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Rep Power: 9  | Re: Epoxy Adhesive Question I use 3M VHB tape all the time and I suggest it is the right approach. Should you ever decide to re-locate the covers, or remove them for some other reason, the VHB tape an be "snapped" off (using quick prying action) and will likely NOT destroy the powder coating. It will, however stick extremely well. We use it (following correct 3M install procedures) to install metal dimensional lettering onto exterior glazing. Trust me, if it works there (and it does), it will work for you.
The other benefit is that the 3M tape will not have the potential for a sharp bump to break the bond in the way some epoxies can.
Mark
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01-30-08, 10:41 AM
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| | FRPGUY 3 Tenths
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Rep Power: 6  | Re: Epoxy Adhesive Question Bill, see if you can get a sign maker to lend a roll to you. A roll of VHB is not cheap! Sign makers that use a lot of plastic use VHB tape.
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01-30-08, 12:35 PM
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| | Mark Charlton Lifetime Premier Supporter
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Rep Power: 9  | Re: Epoxy Adhesive Question Quote:
Originally Posted by FRPGUY Bill, see if you can get a sign maker to lend a roll to you. A roll of VHB is not cheap! Sign makers that use a lot of plastic use VHB tape. | True, but it's also available from some commercial auto supply shops since it is also used to apply vehicle badges and trim.
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