GT40s.com
MK-I  MK-II  MK-III  MK-IV  GULF  MIRAGE  J-CAR  LOLA
GT40s.com
Home Forum Gallery Member Rides Support GT40s.com  
Register FAQ Members List Advertisers Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Go Back   GT40s.com > GT40 Technical Forums > GT40 Tech - Powertrain/Transaxles

Notices

GT40 Tech - Powertrain/Transaxles Transaxles and driveline - don't dare post engine things here!

Reply
 
LinkBack (2) Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-22-05, 06:04 PM   #21 (permalink)
brettmcc's Avatar
brettmcc
10 tenths
United Kingdom
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Essex, UK
GT40: RSGTD
Posts: 1,326
Rep Power: 20 brettmcc is a name known to all
Re: Audi 6 speed transaxles

John,
SVA is not the problem. Please do not cloud the issue.

DVLA is the issue for using secondhand/refurbished parts. There are one set of rules for building the vehicle and another for registering it.

Brett
brettmcc is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-05, 06:59 PM   #22 (permalink)
John W's Avatar
John W
6 Tenths
United Kingdom
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Surrey, England
GT40: lots of bits but not bolted together yet...
Posts: 629
Rep Power: 11 John W is a splendid one to behold
Re: Audi 6 speed transaxles

Sorry Brett, I was trying to be helpful.
What I meant was trying to get the car registered (shame what I wrote didn't match what I meant).
I'll keep my gob shut in future until I know what I am talking about [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
John W is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-05, 03:39 PM   #23 (permalink)
A Tenth
United Kingdom
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
GT40: Glous, UK
Posts: 127
Rep Power: 5 David York is on a distinguished road
Re: Audi 6 speed transaxles

I can concur on the DVLA inspection and that they only like to see one recon unit to still qualify for a new registration.
Of course the engine trans could be described as the POWER Train and as such be one unit [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

In practice they do not care. When I went through this process on the caterham I had a "certificate of newness" from caterham stating it was built from all new components even thought he engine/transaxle was not sourced from them. As long as the manufacturer is happy to supply this certificate validating the components used in the manufacture of the kit are new then it should be a breeze.

All the same I was considering ordering a new transaxle from Audi to simplify sourcing.
David York is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-05, 05:06 PM   #24 (permalink)
A Tenth
United Kingdom
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
GT40: Glous, UK
Posts: 127
Rep Power: 5 David York is on a distinguished road
Re: Audi 6 speed transaxles

Excuse my ignorance but in a previous post Mark said a EKN is the best as it came with an oil pump. Seemingly this would be for oil cooling and would necessitate a resevoir of some sort. Is this correct or have I got the wrong end of the stick? I can understand how oil cooling can add to longevity but this does not effect pure strength does it?
David York is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-05, 06:21 PM   #25 (permalink)
John W's Avatar
John W
6 Tenths
United Kingdom
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Surrey, England
GT40: lots of bits but not bolted together yet...
Posts: 629
Rep Power: 11 John W is a splendid one to behold
Re: Audi 6 speed transaxles

There is no external reservoir (well there isn't on my Audi with an 01E box which has a gearbox oil cooler...)
John W is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 06-12-05, 05:13 PM   #26 (permalink)
ingvar
Rookie
Sweden
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: North of Sweden
GT40: North of sweden
Posts: 34
Rep Power: 5 ingvar is on a distinguished road
Re: Audi 6 speed transaxles

Hello
In sweden these audi 5 or six-speed gearboxes are common and unexpensive. The older type of 01e that have the cast iron center housing are much stronger than the newer with aluminium center. But the early six-speed before 1994 have a weaker 1st gear that will break if anyone makes drag race tests. Prices for the 01e 5 speed, code CEP, is aboat 500 euro and for the 01e six-speed, code ARX is aboat 600 to 1200euro. 1200 is for a rebuilt unit.
Gear ratios 5-speed code CEP: 189 1,23 0,93 0,76 final gear 3,50
Gearbox ratios 6 -speed, code ARX: 1,89 1,32 0,87 0,73 0,56 Final gear 3,50
There is also another 01 gearbox that are extremely common, called 01p, a 2 piece housing is the biggest difference to the 01e 3-piece hiousing. They are all 5-speed and is mounted in audi 100 with 2,6 or 2,8 v6 engine. Prices for this gearbox code CDX is aboat 350 to 500 euro.
gear ratios 1,89 1,23 0,93 0,76 final gear 3,50

Link to a swedish website with these boxes: http://www.bildelsbasen.se/asp/parts...sp?action=list

The length from bellhousing to the center of driveflange on all boxes seems to be 175mm and total lenght varies from 620mm (5sp) and 670mm (6sp).
If you are on a scrap yard and find a audi that you wan´t to identify the year box without getting dirty. Look in the car on the shift knob, the 01e 5 or six speed has the reverse at left/forward all others has the reverse at right/backwards, very simple if the box still are in the cars. Picture of 01p attached
//ingvar
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	59559-P1150013.JPG
Views:	712
Size:	98.5 KB
ID:	10694  
ingvar is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-05, 04:18 PM   #27 (permalink)
ingvar
Rookie
Sweden
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: North of Sweden
GT40: North of sweden
Posts: 34
Rep Power: 5 ingvar is on a distinguished road
Re: Audi 6 speed transaxles

ooops wrong gear ratios
They are:
01e 5speed: 3,50 1,89 1,23 0,93 0,76
01e 6-speed 3,50 1,89 1,32 0,87 0,73 0,56
01p 5-speed 3,50 1,89 1,23 0,93 0,73
//ingvar
ingvar is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-05, 11:01 AM   #28 (permalink)
A Tenth
United Kingdom
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
GT40: Glous, UK
Posts: 127
Rep Power: 5 David York is on a distinguished road
Re: Audi 6 speed transaxles

Taksumeeka (sp) for the link.

What is the swedish for transmission?
David York is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-05, 12:56 PM   #29 (permalink)
ingvar
Rookie
Sweden
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: North of Sweden
GT40: North of sweden
Posts: 34
Rep Power: 5 ingvar is on a distinguished road
Re: Audi 6 speed transaxles

Here is som useful swedish keywords
Transmission -- Växellåda
Engine -- Motor
Clutch -- Koppling
Alternator -- Generator
Starter -- Startmotor
Whant more.... ask
// ingvar
ingvar is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-05, 01:29 PM   #30 (permalink)
Hershal Byrd
10 tenths
United States
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Phoenix
GT40: RF
Posts: 1,262
Rep Power: 20 Hershal Byrd is on a distinguished road
Re: Audi 6 speed transaxles

Ingvar,
Thank you for the helpfull information.
The ratios that you post show only 4 gears and final drive for the 5 speed and 5 gears and final drive for the 6 speed.

Hersh [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
Hershal Byrd is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-05, 06:33 PM   #31 (permalink)
Joe T's Avatar
Joe T
3 Tenths
United Kingdom
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Mid Sussex, UK
GT40: RCR70 For Sale
Posts: 337
Rep Power: 8 Joe T is a jewel in the rough
Re: Audi 6 speed transaxles

I have found this page really useful for working out codes against cars, although in German its still possible to make out model,engine size, gearbox code, production years etc
web page

Cheers
Joe T is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-05, 08:03 PM   #32 (permalink)
brettmcc's Avatar
brettmcc
10 tenths
United Kingdom
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Essex, UK
GT40: RSGTD
Posts: 1,326
Rep Power: 20 brettmcc is a name known to all
Re: Audi 6 speed transaxles

[ QUOTE ]
I'm not familiar with the 01X, but based on the lack of case reinforcement around the output flanges compared to the 01E, it doesn't look as stout as the 01E.

[/ QUOTE ]

Mark,
Here's the other side to the box
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	59736-nearside_01X.jpg
Views:	671
Size:	73.0 KB
ID:	10722  
brettmcc is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 06-18-05, 06:09 PM   #33 (permalink)
ingvar
Rookie
Sweden
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: North of Sweden
GT40: North of sweden
Posts: 34
Rep Power: 5 ingvar is on a distinguished road
Re: Audi 6 speed transaxles

Hello
My 5 and 6-speed 01e gear boxes both have 37/9 r/p (4.11)
It seems to me that most of these boxes have the same final drive, Rs2 and some other 4wd have 4.375 instead.
I am not shure aboat the 01p but it would probably be in the same range.
sorry for my incomplete information
//ingvar
ingvar is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 06-28-05, 02:09 AM   #34 (permalink)
Rookie
New Zealand
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
GT40: New Zealand
Posts: 38
Rep Power: 5 GraemeS is on a distinguished road
Re: Audi 6 speed transaxles

Hi Guys, Maybe someone out there knows, i have searched lots of Audi Sites can't find anything on these.
I have found a couple of Audi transaxels, one is in a 5cyl 80 and the other on a 5 cyl 90 they are both 1988-90 cars the gearboxes have thes numbers AKU 21127 AND AKT29057 they are both quattro, i can find nothing about them are they stronger than a 016 or more like a 093 seem to have lots of ribbing on he outside, the shifter is on the RHS of the box,and the diff access plate is on the LHS,looking from the front, also stumbled onto this site with lots of Audi transaxel info.http://www.dieselschrauber.de/audi_zuord.html it is in german, but is still usefull Regards GraemeS
GraemeS is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 06-28-05, 09:03 AM   #35 (permalink)
John W's Avatar
John W
6 Tenths
United Kingdom
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Surrey, England
GT40: lots of bits but not bolted together yet...
Posts: 629
Rep Power: 11 John W is a splendid one to behold
Re: Audi 6 speed transaxles

According to Audi parts info both the AKT & AKU are 5 speed quattro boxes used in both the 80 & 90 as you say.
The bellhousing/diff casing is an 012 casting.

They are not as strong as the 01E.
John W is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 06-28-05, 06:59 PM   #36 (permalink)
Rookie
New Zealand
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
GT40: New Zealand
Posts: 38
Rep Power: 5 GraemeS is on a distinguished road
Re: Audi 6 speed transaxles

Thanks John W, that helped a lot, well while i was digging for info on the 012 i also found all the workshop manuals for the 01A and 6speed 01e, who says Xmas only comes one a year, this info has to be of use to you guys out there,covers Torsens the lot enjoy.http://1.8t.org/~quattroman/Audi%20B.../Transmission/ Best Regards GraemeS
GraemeS is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 06-29-05, 07:17 AM   #37 (permalink)
brettmcc's Avatar
brettmcc
10 tenths
United Kingdom
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Essex, UK
GT40: RSGTD
Posts: 1,326
Rep Power: 20 brettmcc is a name known to all
Re: Audi 6 speed transaxles

Bentley Publishers list one instance for the 01X that I can see. It is on the A4 2002-2005 B6 Platform.

Engines covered:
1.8 Liter 4-Cyl. 5V Turbo (engine code: AMB)
2.0 Liter 4-Cyl. 4V Turbo (engine code: BPG)
3.0 Liter 6-Cyl. 5V (engine code: AVK)
3.2 Liter V6 4V (engine code: BKH)
4.2 Liter V8 5V (engine code: BHF)

Transmissions covered:
4 Spd. Automatic Transmission 01N Front Wheel Drive
5 Spd. Manual Transmission 012/01W Front Wheel Drive
5 Spd. Manual Transmission 01A All Wheel Drive (quattro)
6 Spd. Manual Transmission 01E All Wheel Drive (quattro)
6 Spd. Manual Transmission 01X Front Wheel Drive
5 Spd. Automatic Transmission 01V All Wheel Drive (quattro)
6 Spd. Automatic Transmission 09L All Wheel Drive (quattro)
Continuously Variable Transmission (CVT) 01J

Anyone got access to this, so I can get some more information on the 01X?

Brett
brettmcc is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 06-29-05, 09:43 AM   #38 (permalink)
John W's Avatar
John W
6 Tenths
United Kingdom
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Surrey, England
GT40: lots of bits but not bolted together yet...
Posts: 629
Rep Power: 11 John W is a splendid one to behold
Re: Audi 6 speed transaxles

I'm working on it Brett.
Since I didn't have chance to figure this out for you at home I am currently trying to update to the latest version of the relevant software on a machine here at work [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Once I have it sorted I'll let you know Brett, but I'm off to Montreal tomorrow for a week, so if you don't get a response today, you won't get one until the end of next week.
Cheers,
John.
John W is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 10-20-06, 06:03 PM   #39 (permalink)
String
United Kingdom
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Devon , UK
Posts: 1
Rep Power: 3 String is on a distinguished road
Wink Re: Audi 6 speed transaxles

Hi , Guy's ,
I have been involved with VAG for some years now and have some info on various transaxles , so to help out with this thread some specs on a 01X box.(the code given is slightly incomplete re.the date code , but is probably 2001).
6-speed 01X (front-wheel drive)

FYA


4.03




A4 2001 ►


1.9 ltr. - 96 kW TDI




32 : 9 = 3.556


33 : 9 = 3.667


39 : 19 = 2.053


37 : 27 = 1.370


32 : 31 = 1.032


28 : 35 = 0.800


25 : 38 = 0.658


34 : 10 = 3.400


3.0 litres


Gear oil G 052 911 A SAE 75 W 90 (synthetic oil)
Hydraulic


240 mm


88 mm


2.339



Example:
GJU
14
6
3
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
Code letters
Day
Month
Year of manufacture (2003)


I do have some 016 and 01E vag booklets and a video! if of any interest.
Regards, Neil
String is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-08, 11:15 PM   #40 (permalink)
Joz
Joz's Avatar
Joz
Rookie
United States
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Kathleen,GA USA
GT40: Karma GT
Posts: 56
Rep Power: 2 Joz is on a distinguished road
Re: Audi 6 speed transaxles

Ingvar,


I read your post from 06-12-05 on the 6 speed 01X transaxle & I am trying to learn as much as I can on it. I would like to use it in my Magnum GT. Do you have any more info on it and do you have a few web site in Sweden that I can work with. Hopefully some of them can handle english.

Joz
Joz is offline