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07-09-07, 02:54 PM
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| | svsgt1 Guest | Audi 01E Part numbers (clutch hose and slave cylinder) Hey guys just for your info I have two part numbers that took me a while to dig up for the Audi 01E.
Slave Cylinder = 8E0-721-257-B ($65 on ebay new)
Clutch Hose = 8E1-721-465-J ($71 at Auto Parts Nation Wide --)
These items have a very strange quick disconnect connector and I have not found an alternative when using this slave cylinder. If you guys have any input on this please let me know. I'm pretty sure that the hose will have to be cut and then made with a "normal" end to fit into my aftermarket master cylinder. | |
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07-11-07, 02:57 PM
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| | andys 2 Tenths
Join Date: Aug 2002 GT40: Valencia, Ca
Posts: 227
Rep Power: 8  | Re: Audi 01E Part numbers (clutch hose and slave cylinder) svsgt1,
It is for this very reason that I opted for a different version slave cylinder so that I could employ the use of an AN fitting. The Audi slave P/N 4A0721261 will fit the 01E. See my thread here: Audi Slave Cylinder Fitting
The slave is $40 to $60 depending on the source, and the Goodridge adapter fitting is $6 or $8. Now you can easily adapt to an aftermarket master.
The photo below shows this slave mounted to an 01E.
Hope this helps,
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07-11-07, 03:20 PM
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| | Steve26 A Tenth
Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Washington State GT40: scratch built
Posts: 126
Rep Power: 5  | Re: Audi 01E Part numbers (clutch hose and slave cylinder) Is the shift mech. the same as the 016 box? I have a simpler shift mech. if you would like to see it.
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07-11-07, 03:38 PM
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| | andys 2 Tenths
Join Date: Aug 2002 GT40: Valencia, Ca
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Rep Power: 8  | Re: Audi 01E Part numbers (clutch hose and slave cylinder) Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve26 Is the shift mech. the same as the 016 box? I have a simpler shift mech. if you would like to see it.
Steve | Steve,
Of course, please do share.
Yes, they are similar.
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07-11-07, 03:49 PM
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| | Steve26 A Tenth
Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Washington State GT40: scratch built
Posts: 126
Rep Power: 5  | Re: Audi 01E Part numbers (clutch hose and slave cylinder) Here is a picture of what I am using. If you need any dimensions or more pictures I will be happy to get them for you. This system acts like a shift fork to move the shift shaft in and out and provides axial force to the shaft so there is no binding or friction.
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07-11-07, 05:03 PM
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| | andys 2 Tenths
Join Date: Aug 2002 GT40: Valencia, Ca
Posts: 227
Rep Power: 8  | Re: Audi 01E Part numbers (clutch hose and slave cylinder) Steve,
I purposely stayed away from that type of system as I believe it has a couple of inherent disadvantages (from the perspective of a truely anal engineering type). This is not a criticism of your system as many have chosen this same configuration. It's only one man's opinion.
I personally dislike anything that slides against a mating surface that is exposed to the elements with potential to trap debris. If your system is a fork type arrangement (for the gate), then it likely has point contact (unless otherwise configured) with the mating surfaces which are subject to rapid wear. The combination of "un-protected", and "point contact" leaves it vulnerable, IMHO.
If you look for example at the Porsche Boxster cable shift linkage (it also uses a bellcrank), you will see that the linkage is positively coupled and there are no sliding areas that are subject to wear, thus retaining a nice positive feel. It is my opinion that this type of design has distinct advantages, so I modeled mine in a similar fashion.
Thanks again for sharing your photo. Nice car!
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07-11-07, 06:52 PM
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| | Steve26 A Tenth
Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Washington State GT40: scratch built
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Rep Power: 5  | Re: Audi 01E Part numbers (clutch hose and slave cylinder) No problem, just another idea. The "wear" surfaces are thrust bearings and can be replaced in ten minutes or less. There is a coller around the shift shaft that is engaged with the shift fork so there are no ware points. These pictures might be better. The great thing about a kit car is that you can build it any way you want. Take care,
Steve
Last edited by Steve26; 07-11-07 at 07:46 PM.
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07-12-07, 04:02 AM
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| | hilly Rookie
Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: UK
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Rep Power: 3  | Re: Audi 01E Part numbers (clutch hose and slave cylinder) While this thread has been hijacked a bit with Audi shift mechanisms I thought I would post a few pics of mine just for info.
It is an Audi 4.2l ABZ V8 and 01X gearbox fitted into an 1981 S3 Lotus Esprit.
I guess it works in a similar way to Steve's except it uses rose joints and sealed bearings throughout so no wear surfaces.
Here it is from another angle after it had been anodised.
As for mating to the Slave cylinder fitting, I just turned up alloy tube to replicate the snap in fitting and then used a compression joint to hook up to the rest of the system.
A bit off beat, but if anyone is interested here is a link to a full thead on the conversion. motorgeek.com :: View topic - 4.2 V8 ABZ conversion of Lotus Esprit
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07-12-07, 04:11 AM
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| | brettmcc 10 tenths
Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Essex, UK GT40: RSGTD
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Rep Power: 19  | Re: Audi 01E Part numbers (clutch hose and slave cylinder) Hilly,
Welcome. I have been following your thread with interest on the other forum, as I have an 01X as well. I am based over in Essex, and would be intrested to see the other end of your gearshift meachinsm, as I still need one!! Where are you based? Thanks
Brett
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07-12-07, 05:12 AM
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| | hilly Rookie
Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: UK
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Rep Power: 3  | Re: Audi 01E Part numbers (clutch hose and slave cylinder) I am based in Shepperton (think film studios) just outside Heathrow.
I used the Lotus original gear level assembly, this is the best photo I have got of it.
The lotus system uses a solid rod for forward/back motion and a cable for cross gate, there is no reason why my linkage would not work with twin cables.
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07-12-07, 02:48 PM
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| | IanAnderson Gold Supporter
Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Heathrow, London, UK GT40: Dax 40 Mk1 (Rover3.9EFi)
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Rep Power: 17  | Re: Audi 01E Part numbers (clutch hose and slave cylinder) Well that sounds like about a mile away from me!
Need to det both cars together
Ian
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07-13-07, 04:13 AM
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| | hilly Rookie
Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: UK
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Rep Power: 3  | Re: Audi 01E Part numbers (clutch hose and slave cylinder) When it is up and running I'll PM you and we can meet up for a squint at each others cars
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