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07-02-08, 08:03 AM
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| | saxoncross Rookie 
Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Norfolk, UK GT40: Tornado
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Rep Power: 2  | Distributorless Ignition Oil Pump Drive
One thing Im considering is either having a fully mapped ignition system with carbs, or a full EFI system. Either way I plan to ditch the distributor (which I dont currently have) and then use a Ford EDIS (Electronic Distributorless Ignition System) system with separate ignition coils (4 in total). The system will trigger the ignition off a 36 tooth wheel on the crank pulley.
As the oil pump drives off the bottom of the distributor, is there a specific part I need to drive the oil pump from the camshaft, or do I need an old distributor to turn it into a blanking plate / top bearing.
Regards
Andy
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07-02-08, 09:02 AM
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| | Big-Foot Gold Supporter 
Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Minneapolis, MN GT40: Replica
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| Re: Distributorless Ignition Oil Pump Drive
The later model Ford Explorers had a DIS oil pump drive but I can't tell you what year. We may still have one in the shop - I will check this coming weekend when I get down there.. | |
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07-02-08, 11:29 AM
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| | IanAnderson Gold Supporter
Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Heathrow, London, UK GT40: Dax 40 Mk1 (Rover3.9EFi)
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Rep Power: 17 | Re: Distributorless Ignition Oil Pump Drive
Andy
As a thaught keep the distributor and make the trigger wheel fit inside.
Saves having to have another wheel in the front of the car and pretty well hides the trigger.
Ian
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07-02-08, 12:19 PM
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| | saxoncross Rookie
Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Norfolk, UK GT40: Tornado
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Rep Power: 2 | Re: Distributorless Ignition Oil Pump Drive
Hi Ian
Thanks for the input. Unfortunatley doing it this way. I'd still need a standard distributor to modify and as the shaft is going at half engine speed, I'd need to ensure the ECU use can accept this as a signal, or use a 72-2 tooth wheel
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07-02-08, 01:37 PM
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| | iank2112 8 Tenths
Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: San Diego, CA GT40: none yet
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Rep Power: 15 | Re: Distributorless Ignition Oil Pump Drive
Andy,
Something like this: Ford Distributor Cam Sync Plugs, PN 8522, PN 8506, PN 8521
Works with Electromotive as well as MSD. Might work with others.
But you could use any regular distributor, lathe off the top, and put a
cap on it. Someone on the forum has done similar.
Ian
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07-05-08, 11:06 AM
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| | wment Rookie
Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Maryland USA GT40: Valkyrie
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Rep Power: 3 | Re: Distributorless Ignition Oil Pump Drive
Big Foot has mentioned the right part. It is from a Ford Explorer with a 302 injected engine that has the GT40 intake and the GT40P heads. It not only provides the oil pump drive but the trigger signal too. I have been looking for one at my local Pic-A-Part yard without much success.
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07-05-08, 12:45 PM
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| | coupe3w Rookie
Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Woburn,Massachusetts USA GT40: Looking
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Rep Power: 2 | Re: Distributorless Ignition Oil Pump Drive
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07-05-08, 01:11 PM
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| | P2164 A Tenth
Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Arkansas GT40: SPF 2164 07-07
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Rep Power: 3 | Re: Distributorless Ignition Oil Pump Drive
That is great news on the return of the MSD units, they were sold out and not going to replace them 2 months ago. I used a crank trigger, bought an old 351W distributor, put the correct gear on and cut it off at the top.
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07-05-08, 03:46 PM
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| | A.J. Rookie
Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Cheshire,CT GT40: RCR
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Rep Power: 1 | Re: Distributorless Ignition Oil Pump Drive
Andy,I have one of those 302 f.i. distributorless engines in my Explorer(winter car). Lost the oil pump/drive and toasted the the motor.Had some miles on it but motor was not abused , regularly serviced,ran strong and didn't burn a drop of oil but went bye-bye anyway.Maybe just an isolated case but food for thought. If you were wondering about the model year,this is a '96.I believe the 96's and 97's were same as well as Mercury Mountaineers.Easily available in salvage yards in northeast U.S; in U.K ? A.J
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07-06-08, 03:13 AM
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| | saxoncross Rookie
Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Norfolk, UK GT40: Tornado
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Rep Power: 2 | Re: Distributorless Ignition Oil Pump Drive
Thanks for the feedback guys, I've now got some idea what I should be looking for
Andy | |
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