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Old 14th June 2018, 04:14 AM   #1
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Flywheel. Ford 302 short block . GTD

Hi

I need to replace my starter as broken.
Can someone tell me the info about the flyweel and starter unit I need to buy ?

I believe the flywheel is from a Ford V6 (standard GTD ?) ?

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Old 14th June 2018, 06:16 AM   #2
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Re: Flywheel. Ford 302 short block . GTD

Hi Fred,
Burton (Burtonpower.com) due a V6 manual ring gear if required and Powerlite (Powerlite-units.com) do a suitable Ford V6 starter motor (RAC 407)
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Old 14th June 2018, 06:58 AM   #3
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Re: Flywheel. Ford 302 short block . GTD

Just in case you don`t know the Ford V6 flywheel used was the Essex V6, not the Cologne V6, as used in 3 litre engine cars like early Capri`s and early Granada`s, cheers, Kev
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Old 14th June 2018, 09:43 AM   #4
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Re: Flywheel. Ford 302 short block . GTD

Many thanks folks
I have indeed the RAC407.
I will have to find a replacement of my flywheel as tooth are damaged aswel ...


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Old 14th June 2018, 10:43 AM   #5
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Re: Flywheel. Ford 302 short block . GTD

Fred,
I've found it far cheaper to have your starter rebuilt than acquire a new one. The shops I'm familiar with repair it to OEM quality.

The ring gear part number# 2724E 6384A
Essex 3.0 V6 Petrol See attached diagram .pdf.

Given how popular the Essex 3.0 was, I'd think you should be able to find the part locally.
FYI, You'll need a torch to "sweat" the old one off and the new one on.
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Old 14th June 2018, 10:46 AM   #6
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Re: Flywheel. Ford 302 short block . GTD

Hi again

Is it possible that the flywheel has 134 tooth ?

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Old 14th June 2018, 11:00 AM   #7
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Re: Flywheel. Ford 302 short block . GTD

Essex 3l V6 Flywheel ring gear
Ring gear Ford Essex V4/V6 manual

Split the old one off using a sharp cold chisel in a gap between two teeth and big hammer. Clean up the surface. Cool flywheel in freezer, and place flat on bench. Heat the new ring gear until good and hot - when expanded enough it will drop into place.It will shrink as it cools and grip the flywheel really tightly.

Repair starter motor is best cost option. My local auto electric shop did mine for 30.

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Old 14th June 2018, 11:35 AM   #8
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Re: Flywheel. Ford 302 short block . GTD

Yess!!
Many thaks guy's.

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Old 14th June 2018, 03:28 PM   #9
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Re: Flywheel. Ford 302 short block . GTD

Fred, skip the dodgy Lucas starter and go for this: Ford Essex V4 / V6

For flywheel, Ford Capri's are my bussines. There are two type's of flywheel with different clutch and pressureplates which you can not mix and match.

Early and late. Ford changed Early seventies to late style flywheel while Relaint on his Scimitars and others went into the eighties using the early ones. Essex V6 is used in many brands like TVR & Marcos also. Also widely used in fire brigate waterpumps and so on

I don't have one. 3.0 V6 Essex parts are very rare on the continend as its all Cologne V6 here ( 2.0 V6 / 2.3 V6 / 2.6 V6 / 2.8 V6 and conversion 2.9 V6 ).

Ringgear itself is interchangeable on both flywheels.

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Old 15th June 2018, 09:48 AM   #10
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Re: Flywheel. Ford 302 short block . GTD

Interesting, the starter I have is a OEM Ford unit made by Bosch, Part # is 952C-11000-AA.

I tried one of the geared starter units supposedly for a Essex V6 and the engagement with the ring gear was out just enough to chip the tips of the ring gear teeth off and that's why after I had it on for a few months, I had to replace the ring gear.

So if one is to buy a non OEM starter (or I'd think any starter for that matter), be sure to measure the gear lash before final installation. Obviously, the best opportunity is while you still have the trans out of the car.

Not sure of the origins of this EBay posting but this looks like something to consider.

FORD CAPRI & GRANADA 3.0 V6 ESSEX BRAND NEW HIGH TORQUE UPRATED STARTER MOTOR | eBay
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