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Old 19th January 2018, 12:14 PM   #21
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Re: IVA Fail ..

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I'm appreciating now how the challenge is not in the building of the car, but in passing the IVA.
Terry,

To a certain extent.

To be honest my tester or Dave as I and his other friends know him by, was very fair he wanted me to get through and provided me with all the information he could to help that when it failed first time. In fact when I passed at the second attempt he had a bigger smile on his face when he told me it had passed, than I did as it hadn't sunk in at that point.

I have heard other testers can be like that, and others can be people who's fathers where bachelors, with comments like, "these cars are race cars shouldn't be on the road", or failing a car on something when their colleagues at the same test station have passed 10 cars from the same same manufacturer previously. That's when you know you are up really against it.

It is bit of a a game and I had a great couple of guys with me to help on both tests Mike Pass and Bob Jones. They kept me calm and as I have mentioned Mike kept emphasising once you have a list you have won, you go through the list, put it in for a 2nd test, if it fails it's a pain but you have a smaller list to go through, if it fails again you go through the same process until Bob's not your auntie and you pass.

I think it is very rare to pass first time these days the day of my first test Mono cars a small car manufacturer in the UK where there putting one of their cars through a second test which surprised me that even a car manufacturer can have faiures. I am a glass half empty guy so my list of fails seemed big to me, again on reflection most were minor. When I told Mick at Southern GT he said they would have been really pleased if they had put a car through and ended up with such a small list. Hearing that was a nice feeling.

Personally I think the test is good when it is about the safety side, in the bad old days you just put the car in for an MOT, and there used to be places were you could get an MOT if the right amount of money changed hands down the local pub .

The bits I object to are what in my opinion are bullshit "rubbish" stuff, headlights at a minimum height, (hard on a low 40), no unprotected toggle switches, mesh over all apertures that someone may stick their hand in, changing my racing approved LUKE 5 point seat belts for lesser 3 point ones because mine didn't have the right required safety labels on etc etc The main thing to remember is the testers didn't make the rules, but their job is to make sure they are passed.

However, despite all this, and still preferring to go to the dentist (even without Mike and Bob to hold my hand ), than do another IVA test, we are privileged in this country to be able to build our own cars and drive them on public roads and long may that continue. I understand this would be impossible in some countries. Some even like the challenge, and see a pass as sticking two fingers up at the establishment, mentioning no names to protect the guilty, you know which farmer you are .

Actually despite my being totally non confrontation, and wanting peace at all costs, long may that attitude also continue, as long as it's done with a smile or extreme coolness
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Old 19th January 2018, 02:58 PM   #22
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All well said Nick m8 ...
I was surprised with some of my fails .. A vibrating mirror ....... A dash sticker ... and so on ..
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Old 19th January 2018, 04:06 PM   #23
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Re: IVA Fail ..

Sod's law I went with a car full of stuff to fix faults like that, but none of mine could be done at the roadside lol. Know of a few who had time to fix small issues lucky so and so's
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Old 19th January 2018, 04:31 PM   #24
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Yes m8 Fingers crossed for Wednesday morning ...

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Old 19th January 2018, 06:26 PM   #25
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Yes m8 Fingers crossed for Wednesday morning ...

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John, I am sure it will be fine, and I am Mr Negative, not long to wait
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Old 19th January 2018, 07:17 PM   #26
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John, I am sure it will be fine, and I am Mr Negative, not long to wait
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Terry,

To a certain extent.

I have heard other testers can be like that, and others can be people who's fathers where bachelors, with comments like, "these cars are race cars shouldn't be on the road", or failing a car on something when their colleagues at the same test station have passed 10 cars from the same same manufacturer previously. That's when you know you are up really against it.
Hey it was 12 years ago but I still remember dealing with that person!

Got through on the retest, with a different tester! Who really liked the car

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So last question if you'll indulge me. Is there any follow-up or annual requirements, or is this a one-time test, and now you're done?
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Old 19th January 2018, 10:35 PM   #29
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So last question if you'll indulge me. Is there any follow-up or annual requirements, or is this a one-time test, and now you're done?
Terry, one time test as regards IVA once you have the paper document in your hand that's it.

You then only have to worry about the annual MOT test which starts 3 years after the aniversary of any cars first registration, and is only compulsory if the car was built after 1960. The MOT is less vigerous than the IVA test.
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Old 20th January 2018, 07:44 AM   #30
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Re: IVA Fail ..

Terry ..... Nick is correct in what he says about the MOT test ...... however, the MOT test centres can vary in their attitude. When I lived in Northamptonshire the place I took my car to was very interested in the car and acted sensibly. Now I live in Norfolk and the place that did the MOT last year was completely anal about it. The emissions test can be very variable. I have all the print outs from the emissions, right back to the IVA and the readings on every one is different. It seems to vary on how hot the engine is and how far they push the lance up the tailpipes.
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Old 20th January 2018, 11:27 AM   #31
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Hi Steve,
I can recommend you a good garage in Norfolk for Mot's. Mine is deemed to low to go on the brake rollers and so is taken for a good drive!! up the road with the electronic Tapley meter on the floor. Any excuse to drive it
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Old 21st January 2018, 05:58 AM   #32
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I have a great MOT shop here in Clacton . They know I look after my cars . And they treat my cars as something to look over . if there is a problem they know I will put it right. They do there job properly but I get a bit of leeway
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