MK-I MK-II MK-III MK-IV GULF MIRAGE J-CAR LOLA
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06-03-07, 04:05 AM
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#21 (permalink)
| | pacman Rookie 
Join Date: Mar 2007
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Rep Power: 2  | Re: New Spyder pics on GD UK website Absolutely stunning! Beautiful car.
So if i understand it correctly the front part is actually from a Mk3B Coupe? I haven´t found any Mk3B spyders on the web...  |
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06-03-07, 07:15 AM
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#22 (permalink)
| | Ron Earp Site Administrator 
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Rep Power: 57  | Re: New Spyder pics on GD UK website Quote:
Originally Posted by pacman Absolutely stunning! Beautiful car.
So if i understand it correctly the front part is actually from a Mk3B Coupe? I haven´t found any Mk3B spyders on the web...  | And I don't think you will!  Have a look at his real name to the left......."One Off Lola". They've constructed a car Lola never built but it is one of the coolest Lolas I've ever seen in pictures.
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06-03-07, 01:34 PM
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#23 (permalink)
| | Scott Calabro Supporting Vendor 
Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: New England GT40: TS40 # 875
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Rep Power: 11  | Re: New Spyder pics on GD UK website Hi all,
I'm confused too.
Maybe Fran can help us out.
The LOLA one-off is a MK IIIB Roadster with a MK IIIB Coupe front clip, correct ?
Mark IIIB spyders were produced, but with the two headlight front clip.
S/N's ...
SL75/ 122, 123, 124, 125
and,
SL/73 126, 127, 128, 129, 130, 131, 132, 133, 134, 135
Ref. "Lola T70", by John Starkey, pages 148 through 151.
Cheers,
Scott |
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06-03-07, 01:54 PM
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#24 (permalink)
| | gt40fran Sponsoring Vendor 
Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Manufacturer of GT40: Michigan,USA
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| Re: New Spyder pics on GD UK website The official Mk3b spyder has nothing in common with the RCR70 MK3b spyder.
We do took a Mk3b coupe nose and tail section.
We then modified one of our spyder dash panels.
The dash was widened to the width of the nose.
The nose was modified to mate with the dash.
The fenders/dash was then modified to have a flowing wheel arch.
The 3B tail section end cap was used and a spyder tail section.
The tail was widened to meet the width of the tail cap.
The rear flares on the spyder tail were widened to meet the width of the 3b tail cap and create the wheel arch contour.
The engine bay access hole in the tail was then sectioned and moved to fit .
This is a very brief overview of what Brad, the RCR composite Guru did ..not including all of the details to make everything flow and look like a cohesive body.
We did not make moulds of this car as we never planned to put it into prodcution but I have had many many requests...but that does not mean sales and the cost of redoing this body and then tooling up RCR grade moulds is not inexpensive.....so this may well remain a true "one off"
as a sidebar,
I think this goes to prove that smaller companies like mine are capable of anything then famous TV Hotrod guys can do and us "KITCAR" companies should be given a little more respect for our determination to raise the bar in our industry and do it at a price the famous hot rod shops would cringe about.....stpe down from soapbox.... 
__________________ FRAN HALL replica manufacturer.....
RCR-40..Mk1, 2 and Mk4
RCR-70 Mk3b
RCR-70 Spider
RCR-P4
Superlite Coupe
Superlite Roadster...including Electrolite
RCR917
XJ13 for SCF www.RACECARREPLICAS.COM www.superlitecars.com |
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06-03-07, 01:57 PM
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#25 (permalink)
| | Scott Calabro Supporting Vendor 
Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: New England GT40: TS40 # 875
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Rep Power: 11  | Re: New Spyder pics on GD UK website Thank you sir.
Cheers,
S |
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06-03-07, 03:14 PM
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#26 (permalink)
| | pacman Rookie 
Join Date: Mar 2007
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Rep Power: 2  | Re: New Spyder pics on GD UK website Thanks Fran.
And i have to add that you should strongly consider putting this one-off into a "several-off" since it is much, much more hard-core and nicer looking than the GD T70. Personal opinion...
Cheers
Peter |
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06-03-07, 04:59 PM
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#27 (permalink)
| | Scott Calabro Supporting Vendor 
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Rep Power: 11  | Re: New Spyder pics on GD UK website UH-OH !  |
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06-03-07, 05:09 PM
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#28 (permalink)
| | kenshiro8 I Have No Life 
Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Milano,Italy GT40: Fujimi 1/24
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Rep Power: 28  | Re: New Spyder pics on GD UK website Quote:
Originally Posted by pacman Thanks Fran.
And i have to add that you should strongly consider putting this one-off into a "several-off" since it is much, much more hard-core and nicer looking than the GD T70. Personal opinion...
Cheers
Peter | agree...this is too nicer.
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06-03-07, 05:59 PM
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#29 (permalink)
| | gt40fran Sponsoring Vendor 
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| Re: New Spyder pics on GD UK website Peter C.
I would need to have a minimum of five solid deposits to even think about making the car a production proposal.....
Who's in???...... 
__________________ FRAN HALL replica manufacturer.....
RCR-40..Mk1, 2 and Mk4
RCR-70 Mk3b
RCR-70 Spider
RCR-P4
Superlite Coupe
Superlite Roadster...including Electrolite
RCR917
XJ13 for SCF www.RACECARREPLICAS.COM www.superlitecars.com
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06-05-07, 03:24 AM
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#30 (permalink)
| | Rookie 
Join Date: Feb 2006
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Rep Power: 3  | Re: New Spyder pics on GD UK website Quote:
Originally Posted by 5150 Hi all,
I'm confused too.
Maybe Fran can help us out.
The LOLA one-off is a MK IIIB Roadster with a MK IIIB Coupe front clip, correct ?
Mark IIIB spyders were produced, but with the two headlight front clip.
S/N's ...
SL75/ 122, 123, 124, 125
and,
SL/73 126, 127, 128, 129, 130, 131, 132, 133, 134, 135
Ref. "Lola T70", by John Starkey, pages 148 through 151.
Cheers,
Scott |
Guys,
Aren't the SL75 series (ie MkIIIb Spyders) the latter CanAm spyders after the MkII and have no relation to the MkIIIb coupe. The chassis was a light weight version of the MkII, and the body a revised version of the MkII spyder.
Fran's car is unique. Well done!
Fran, I suspect you will need to get started on the moulds soon. I think there may be more than the required 5 deposits. |
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06-08-07, 10:24 AM
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#31 (permalink)
| | 6 Tenths 
Join Date: Dec 2002 GT40: USA
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Rep Power: 15   | Re: New Spyder pics on GD UK website There is no relation between a MK III B coupe and a MK III B spyder as far as the Lola Chassis are concerned. None of the chassis pieces interchange.
They called the things MK III B cars in order not to have to build another 25 cars. |
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06-08-07, 08:10 PM
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#32 (permalink)
| | LOLA one-off A Tenth 
Join Date: May 2007 Location: Albuquerque, NM GT40: RCR Lola
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Rep Power: 0  | Re: New Spyder pics on GD UK website LOLA Spyder (one-off) |
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06-08-07, 08:19 PM
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#33 (permalink)
| | gt40fran Sponsoring Vendor 
Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Manufacturer of GT40: Michigan,USA
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| Re: New Spyder pics on GD UK website Info for the above pictured car....
NÜRBURGRING 1,000-KMS 1969 - The 3.0 Lola -BRM T70 Mk3 Spyder with chassis SL73/113 is bought by Max Wilson who fittted a 3.0 BRM V12 coupled to an LG600 gearbox in it. The car was raced the first time at the Nürburgring 1,000-kms in 1969 where he and Mike Walker qualified 29th out of 73. But the first lap the car was the victim of an accident. It was raced as a prototype and called "Lola-BRM T70P". In 1970 Wilson and Mac Daghorn finished 3rd at the Zolder 500-kms. At Jarama Wilson finished 6th. At the 1970 Nürburgring 1,000-kms the car qualified 28th on 58 but retired after 4 laps.
Later it was equipped with a red Mk3B body and sold in the States.
__________________ FRAN HALL replica manufacturer.....
RCR-40..Mk1, 2 and Mk4
RCR-70 Mk3b
RCR-70 Spider
RCR-P4
Superlite Coupe
Superlite Roadster...including Electrolite
RCR917
XJ13 for SCF www.RACECARREPLICAS.COM www.superlitecars.com |
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06-08-07, 11:30 PM
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#34 (permalink)
| | spud Rookie 
Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New York, USA GT40: Gardner Douglas T70
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Rep Power: 4  | Re: New Spyder pics on GD UK website The one off Lola is undoubtedly a wicked looking car. Only problem with it is that the nose is rather long, certainly quite a bit longer than the standard roadster. So you either take more chances with catching the front end on curbs, obstructions etc, or you raise the ride height in front (which would likely negate a lot of the high speed aero benefits of the 3B nose).
For those looking for down force on the front on track, but a little more flexibilty for road driving, has anyone thought about a horzontal front splitter that is rigid in the downward direction, but flexible in the upward direction? Maybe that's too low also? |
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06-09-07, 07:35 AM
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#35 (permalink)
| | Scott Calabro Supporting Vendor 
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Rep Power: 11  | Re: New Spyder pics on GD UK website SPUD !!!!!!!!!
What's up with that GD T70 ? !!!!
We need an update and some info & pics !
(diversity in the Lola gene pool is slim in the USA)
Best regards,
Scott |
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06-09-07, 10:00 AM
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#36 (permalink)
| | LOLA one-off A Tenth 
Join Date: May 2007 Location: Albuquerque, NM GT40: RCR Lola
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Rep Power: 0  | Re: New Spyder pics on GD UK website You don't think I would actually DRIVE this beauty where there speed-bumps or curbs....
__________________ OWNER: RCR MIIIB "Spyder" one-off 
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06-09-07, 10:24 PM
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#37 (permalink)
| | spud Rookie 
Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New York, USA GT40: Gardner Douglas T70
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Rep Power: 4  | Re: New Spyder pics on GD UK website John,
I sure hope not! At the very least you wouldn't get very far as you would be explaining to a lot of curious people exactly what it is!
I'm looking forward to seeing some photos of that monster on the track. Maybe even some in car video?
BTW, that color combination is outstanding - what is the main body color?
Scott,
Haven't spent enough time on the car recently, decided to put in a center mount cable shifter that I designed to be super narrow, which required some welding in the chassis. So it's currently stuck in the shop to do final plumbing, shifter/cable and engine installation. Hopefully it will be back in my garage in a few weeks.
Tom |
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06-10-07, 08:06 AM
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#38 (permalink)
| | Scott Calabro Supporting Vendor 
Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: New England GT40: TS40 # 875
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Rep Power: 11  | Re: New Spyder pics on GD UK website I'll look foward to it Tom. MoJo Jo-Jo's foaming at the mouth !!!
Best,
Scott |
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