Level measurement in GT Fuel Tank

Dave Bilyk · 09-21-04, 06:30 PM

Just came across a concise but interesting article on Ford GT fuel tank sensor with 3D sketch in Eureka magazine. Click on the following link, then click on 'Fuel Tank sensor is Piezoceramic'
Fuel Tank
regards
Dave

Dave Bilyk · 09-21-04, 07:24 PM

Oops, seems you would have to register on the magazine site to see this article and any others. Thinking about it, I guess that some of the engineers among you might like to register to get access to the site anyway. Register here Eureka magazine
If you have any problems pm me. Provided that you are willing to state that you will not use the article for commercial gain, and copyright is clearly stated I believe that I will be able to pass an on to you.
regards
Dave

daveg · 09-24-04, 07:03 AM

The "ship in a bottle"concept is very clever,but if anything develops a fault within the fuel tank, it looks like the whole lot will have to be replaced [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

Rick Muck- Mark IV · 09-24-04, 08:55 AM

YES,

If anything (pumps, sender, etc.) goes wonky you must replace the entire fuel tank unit. However as you need to do some major removals to access this it is probably a good idea to freshen it all up at that time. Ford has rightly been proud of the engineering that went into this "ship-in-a-bottle" tank design and you will see it used in other products in the future (think "Aston").

On the Ford dealer broadcast the other day a dealer asked
"What about people who take their car to a track day, how will this affect the warranty?"..reply? "This IS a race car, don't worry about it!!!" [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

While it is not a 40, the more I see, the more I like...

Rick [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Gary Gibbs · 10-19-04, 07:33 PM

Why are they proud of this. How about designing for maintenance.

Ron Earp · 10-19-04, 09:32 PM

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other day a dealer asked
"What about people who take their car to a track day, how will this affect the warranty?"..reply? "This IS a race car, don't worry about it!!!" [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

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Not doubting you, but how can they support this? I mean, REAL track time? How about the guy that takes the Eaton blower and overdrives it for 750hp? I'm doing the same in my Lightning now for 475hp at 14psi (did I tell you I like this truck?! It feels mid 12s already, we need this thing at Brighton) but if the motor blows and I ventilate the contents all over the street I can't expect Ford to cover it under warranty. How would the GT be different?

So, a fellow drives the heck out of the GT on the track, uses up the pads and rotors, are they covered? Breaks a half shaft in a little "off track excursion", covered? Ruins that nice transaxles' synchros speed shifting on the drag strip?

I don't know. Doesn't seem like when the rubber hits the road Ford would be covering this sort of stuff. It's one thing to utter it in a meeting for morale, but, IMHO, I bet it is another story when you're the fellow with a car on a trailer covered in fresh race dirt with a spun main from over-revving. Just an opinion and it might be wrong.

Ron

Brett James-McCall · 10-20-04, 06:45 AM

Gary,
The SAE paper says they have a service hatch....

Brett

Rick Muck- Mark IV · 10-20-04, 09:39 AM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
other day a dealer asked
"What about people who take their car to a track day, how will this affect the warranty?"..reply? "This IS a race car, don't worry about it!!!" [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

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Not doubting you, but how can they support this? I mean, REAL track time? How about the guy that takes the Eaton blower and overdrives it for 750hp? I'm doing the same in my Lightning now for 475hp at 14psi (did I tell you I like this truck?! It feels mid 12s already, we need this thing at Brighton) but if the motor blows and I ventilate the contents all over the street I can't expect Ford to cover it under warranty. How would the GT be different?

So, a fellow drives the heck out of the GT on the track, uses up the pads and rotors, are they covered? Breaks a half shaft in a little "off track excursion", covered? Ruins that nice transaxles' synchros speed shifting on the drag strip?

Ron,
The barkes are "wear and tear" items and as such are not covered unless defective. If you chip or overdrive the engine you have "modified" it and as such are not covered (more on that later) and an off-course is not covered so long as it is obvious that the damage was due to contact. What Ford says is that the car was designed for high speed, full on use and that the warranty will back up such use. Officially entry in an "orginized speed event" voids the warranty but the will not argue about open track time use.

And when you modify your vehicle, such as a overdriven supercharger, thet can only deny warranty coverage for that item or others directly affected buy the modification, i.e. the incresed boost melts a piston....not covered, your radio goes bad, covered.
Rick [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif[/img]

Ron

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Ron Earp · 10-20-04, 12:08 PM

I understand how the warranty works for my car without clarification but, if I have a track day in the GT and throw a rod through the block they cover that?

I can see "Open Track Time" useage being HIGHLY suspect in definition. Is Open Thursday Night at most drag strips open track days? BMW Car Club track day, organized or not? Obviously NASA or SCCA events are organized, but, what about the open test and tune day that that is the day before most SCCA events? Lots of places there that would be muddy.