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Old 04-02-04, 02:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Group Purchase on NMRA

There is a group purchase of Safecraft safety equipment going on on the (National Mustang Racers Ass.) NMRA site. I am not positive if anyone can purchase under it, but I have an email into them to see. It is mostly for fire suppression and seats. It looks like the more that is bought the more that is saved, so I don't see why they wouldn't want us to join in. A fire suppression system is one thing I want that I haven't bought yet. And, it is something everyone should think long and hard about where their GT40 build is concerned.

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Old 04-02-04, 03:37 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Group Purchase on NMRA

I see that these come in both Halon and "water based" - I'm not a big fan of Halon in sealed cockpit cars, but don't have any experience with the water based version - how efficient are they? and do you have to go to larger source bottles (ie 5 lbs of halon = 10 lbs of water based?) for the water base?

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Re: Group Purchase on NMRA

Dave - honestly, I have no clue, sorry,

But we have been OKed to participate in this. Apparently, it has been posted on many Mustang boards, so some of you may have seen it already. We, as in the GT40s.com members, don't really get anything out of this other than the reduced prices. I have the instruction for ordering stuff, so email me and I will send them to you. Email is in my profile - click my name.

Here is the deal:

SafeCraft Extinguisher Systems:

LT5 (5 pound) Drag Race Installed System - $265.
LT10 (10 pound) Drag Race Installed System - $403.
RS5 (5 pound) Drag Race Installed System - $327.
RS10 (10 pound) Drag Race Installed System - $497.
RS10 Funny Car Dual Cylinder (20 pound total) Drag Race Installed System - Requires (1) RS10 ($497.) + $480.
RS20 Funny Car Single Cylinder (20 pound) Drag Race Installed System - $784.

{Note from Lynn- you will see that these are the same as others, just named this way to intice drag racers, I guess}

Shipping on the systems will go as follows:

The quote I got is for a 5 pound system which will be drop shipped directly from Safecraft to a "worse-case" continental designation west to east coast - $35. which includes a $20. Haz. Material Fee. (The bottles come completely full of Halon)

{Note from Lynn - all this means max shipping to US-Lower 48 = $35 }

SafeCraft Drag Race Aluminum Bucket Seats & Combos:

Specs:

- .125 thick 5052 aluminum
- Reinforced flush fit headrest
- Offset aluminum extrusion around perimeter and seat belt openings
- Lowered and shortened chest support of easy shifting
- 10 or 20 degree recline / lay-back
- 15, 16, 17 or 18 inch width

Drag Seat Combo #1 - $600.

Includes: (1)Pro Drag Seat, solid "Black" Fire Resistant Cloth Seat Cover, LT5 Drag Race Extinguisher system, Extinguisher and Pull Cable Seat Mounts, Latch & Link 5 point SFI belts - Black, SFI 18x24 Window Net - Black.

For those who wish to add some options to seats system:

- Colored seat cover (middle section) Blue, Red or Grey = + $30. per seat.
- Upgrade to Cam-Lok restraint = + $90.
- Extra Drag Seat with cover (passenger) = + $200.
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Re: Group Purchase on NMRA

Dave,

I have sent an email to Safecraft asking for documentation on the comparative effectiveness of the water based foam vs Halon. I will post what ever response I get from them.

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Re: Group Purchase on NMRA

Dave, I got a response from Safecraft on the foam vs halon question:

To our knowledge no direct data exists that compares agent quantities of
foam vs. Halon. This is primarily due to the fact that water/foam is
considered a local streaming agent and halon is generally classified as a
total flooding agent. This puts the agents is two separate classifications
which don't really have a comparison.

Recently the motorsports Safety Foundation Institute (SFI) has done testing
on engine fires with both agents. These tests were to determine discharge
capabilities of different manufacturers systems. Both foam and Halon were
tested, and were conducted with both 5 and 10 pound systems. Both agents
extinguished the fires. Halon was typically much faster in extinguishing the
fire - but both worked in the controlled test article.

We believe that foam can be an effective agent, but you consider that nozzle
placement is much more critical with foam. Water/foam must have direct line
of sight to the fire - halon being a gas - nozzle placement is not as
critical.

One thing to keep in mind is that water/foam has half the density as halon -
so the container for foam much be much larger for a given amount of agent.

Please feel free to contact me if you would like to discuss this further.

Regards,

Steven Baker
Safecraft Inc.
800-400-2259
sbaker@safecraft.com
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Re: Group Purchase on NMRA

I wish I knew about this sooner. I ordered a 5lb Halon system (with all the lines brackets and nozels) for $289.

The place is called Car SHOP, check it out.

http://www.carshopinc.com/
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Re: Group Purchase on NMRA

Thanks for getting the information Lynn!!

I will send you a PM to get the ordering information.

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