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01-28-07, 10:02 AM
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| | simonjrwinter serial GT40 owner 
Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Essex, UK GT40: GTD
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Rep Power: 25  | Fun with scammers |
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01-28-07, 10:12 AM
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| | JIMMYMAC Lifetime Premier Supporter 
Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Scotland
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Rep Power: 15  | Re: Fun with scammers Whereabouts in Ireland do you get those palm trees ?
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01-28-07, 11:19 AM
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| | Mark IV 9 Tenths 
Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: W. New York GT40: Formerly P1116
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Rep Power: 17  | Re: Fun with scammers I like that the specs page lists it as "Right Hand Drive"....perhaps they flipped the photos?
Rick
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01-28-07, 11:25 AM
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| | Brian Kissel Lifetime Premier Supporter 
Join Date: May 2002 Location: Sheridan, Michigan USA
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Rep Power: 9  | Re: Fun with scammers Also note in the description, that it is a right hand drive, but the pictures show left hand drive. Further more it lists it as a manual transmission, but the pictures show a automatic shifter. Then the paper on the floor has a US phone number on it for the transport company. Possibly when the transport company imported the car to Ireland, they also imported the palm trees.
Regards Brian
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01-28-07, 05:00 PM
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| | Keith1 10 tenths 
Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: England GT40: Nein
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Rep Power: 26   | Re: Fun with scammers Anyone notice his User ID spells D-W-E-B-E?
Is there possibly a connection to a genuine Dweeb?
Eh?
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01-28-07, 05:29 PM
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| | simonjrwinter serial GT40 owner 
Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Essex, UK GT40: GTD
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Rep Power: 25  | Re: Fun with scammers This is the message I got from the sick bas**rd
"Hello
First of all I want to thank you for contacting me and your interest for the car. I know that are numerous offers on eBay and I'm glad that you choose to contact me regarding the car. It was my son`s car... he died 3 months ago and this car will be my gift in memory of my son , ( he would be very happy if i find a person who will love and take care of this car in the same way he did ).I will sell the car to the first buyer that will arange the payment through eBay .If you are able to make the payment today or tomorrow you will be the next owner of this car.You have to know that the car is 100% working and looking very good, no scratches or any kind of damage,it has a clear title. The price for the car is £ 9.000 ( includes shipping ) because I want to close a quick and smooth deal with a serious person. About the shipping I can tell you that will take no more than 4-5 days.I decided that the payment be completed using Ebay security because I want to take this opportunity to assure you that this deal is 100% LEGIT.
I am looking forward to your reply.
Thank You!"
Hope he rots in hell |
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01-28-07, 05:45 PM
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| | llarsen Admin 
Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Raleigh, NC GT40: Sabre
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Rep Power: 29   | Re: Fun with scammers I hope you reported it to eBay before some unknowing sucker sends the guy the £9K he is looking to bilk out of somebody!
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01-28-07, 07:11 PM
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| | jac mac 10 tenths 
Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Gore N.Z.
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Rep Power: 20   | Re: Fun with scammers Looks like the same car/pics that was being offered out of slovakia this time last year. The son was selling on behalf of his late father if I remember correctly, Reincarnation is alive & well!
Jac Mac |
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01-29-07, 03:38 AM
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| | simonjrwinter serial GT40 owner 
Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Essex, UK GT40: GTD
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Rep Power: 25  | Re: Fun with scammers I ALWAYS report these scumbags but sadly it seems ebay are no longer protecting their customers.
I have reported this listing eBay.co.uk: 2005 Triumph Rocket III (item 280072213548 end time 15-Feb-07 21:28:57 GMT)
as a scam FIVE TIMES over the course of a week and a half, but all I get is the standard ebay automated reply and the listing continues. If anybody is in any doubt, here is the reply I got from the scammer today
"Hello there and thanks for your interest in my bike .
I must apologize for the delay in the response, but I am literally overwhelmed by the number of offers..
The price for the 2005 Triumph Rocket III is 2500 GBP + shipping to your door. The bike is in perfect condition as shown in the ad and has no mechanical problems .No scratches or dents, all services have been made at a Triumph Service in time.
I have graduated the University of Southampton, School of Medicine and just returned home to Netherlands . I brought the bike here. The bike is still registered in the UK and when I tried to register it here , I saw that it was very dificult and I had a lot of taxes to pay , I`have
decided to sell it back in the UK , but my loss will be your gain.
The bike will be insured during transportation and it will be delivered in front of your door. The payment will be made through Ebay and only after you will receive the bike I will receive the payment.
For an accurate shipping cost please include your YOUR FULL NAME AND
ADDRESS in your next email and I will be more than glad to complete this transaction with you.
All the best! "
I hate these scumbags, but I hate ebay more for letting them continue when we, the members are doing all their policing for them and they STILL don't take any notice.
Simon |
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01-29-07, 03:49 AM
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| | simonjrwinter serial GT40 owner 
Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Essex, UK GT40: GTD
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Rep Power: 25  | Re: Fun with scammers "How can you contact eBay Customer Support?
We are committed to answering your questions as quickly and accurately
as possible. For this reason, this email has been sent to you as part of
an automated process. Please do not reply to this email as you will not
receive a response."
Well that's all right then!!!!!!!!
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01-29-07, 09:00 AM
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| | llarsen Admin 
Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Raleigh, NC GT40: Sabre
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Rep Power: 29   | Re: Fun with scammers Simon,
I just sent the following nasty-gram to eBay here in the US via the security department. I referenced this thread and the eBay-UK auctions. Don't know if it will do any good, but at least we tried.
Lynn Quote:
eBay.co.uk: item 280072213548
eBay.co.uk: item 160078275458
email tool would not accept these numbers. (And don't tell me it's eBay UK! It has "eBay" on it so it is YOUR responsibility.)
Why are obviously fradulant auctions allowed to continue. Please reference this discussion: Fun with scammers
in which the fraudulence of these auctions is pointed out AND the contents of emails received from the fraudulent sellers is listed. The gentleman who listed the auctions, after being asked if has reported them to eBay, responds: "I ALWAYS report these scumbags but sadly it seems ebay are no longer protecting their customers. I have reported this listing eBay.co.uk: 2005 Triumph Rocket III (item 280072213548 end time 15-Feb-07 21:28:57 GMT) as a scam FIVE TIMES over the course of a week and a half, but all I get is the standard ebay automated reply and the listing continues."
We certainly can't expect eBay to read every auction, although it seems like you do when it might mean lost revenue for eBay, but, when a report is submitted (repeatedly), this shows a blatant disregard for the buyers without whom eBay wouldn't exist.
William L. Larsen
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01-29-07, 11:33 AM
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| | paul butvila Bronze Supporter 
Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: B.C. Canada GT40: Still looking/drooling
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Rep Power: 2  | Re: Fun with scammers I've seen these on ebay all the time, and have reported them as well. The guy skoops pics from other locations and just lists them as his. I feel sorry for the poor sucker that actually bids on these scams. I would like to find this guy and my 2x4 and give him a wood shampoo!
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01-29-07, 02:53 PM
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| | JIMMYMAC Lifetime Premier Supporter 
Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Scotland
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Rep Power: 15  | Re: Fun with scammers A mate of mine tells me that this looks like the guy who was also flogging a Chevy Stingray for peanuts recently.
I wonder who got stung.
__________________ Cordially, James MKI monocoque. XE' 289 short blocks, C6FE heads, Webers, ZF Graviner Fire Suppression |
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01-29-07, 04:53 PM
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| | MGNut Bronze Supporter 
Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Tavistock, Devo GT40: C type MK1 KVA
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Rep Power: 8  | Re: Fun with scammers Both of these are off now, I tried at 22:00 UK time. Looks like your effors have paid off gents. Well done. I just hate these low life. There should be some way of getting hold of them and twisting thier bloody arms off!!!
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01-29-07, 05:34 PM
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| | Dimi Lifetime Premier Supporter 
Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bondi, Sydney, GT40: DRB Chassis 68
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Rep Power: 5  | Re: Fun with scammers With regard to the above scumbags has anyone had any dealings with Coast To Coast Auto Salvage in the US.
I was looking for a G52 which they claimed they had but after the money was sent no further contact and no G52.
Dimi
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01-29-07, 06:02 PM
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| | llarsen Admin 
Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Raleigh, NC GT40: Sabre
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Rep Power: 29   | Re: Fun with scammers Dimi,
We do have a Consumer Watch section that you should probably post this in also.
I haven't had any dealings with them, but here is their info:
Mailing Address:
Coast To Coast Auto Salvage
9434 Deschutes Road
PO Box 628
Palo Cedro, CA 96073
Department Phone Numbers:
Parts Department 800-895-9140 option 2
Customer Sevice 800-895-9140 option 3 parts@salvageparts.net
Shipping 800-895-9140 option 4
Billing 800-895-9140 option 5
You might try contacting Redding CA Chamber of Commerce (covers Palo Cedro)
or
BBB Northeast California (better business bureau) <-covers Reddin/Palo Cedro
WWW: The Better Business Bureau Serving Northeast California
Email: info@necal.bbb.org
Phone: (916) 443-6843
Fax: (916) 443-0376
400 S Street
Sacramento CA 95814-6997
Also,
try contacting BillE who is a member and lives in Redding.
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01-29-07, 09:20 PM
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| | Dimi Lifetime Premier Supporter 
Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bondi, Sydney, GT40: DRB Chassis 68
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Rep Power: 5  | Re: Fun with scammers Dear Lynn
Thanks for your reply.
At this stage I have filed formal complaints with all the authorities you mentioned and more but they are toothless tigers and do nothing more than make a noise but no results.
What I really need is someone to act on my behalf legally and take these people to task.
I would be willing to pay a percentage of the recovered money to compensate for time and trouble
Dimi |
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02-03-07, 12:56 PM
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| | llarsen Admin 
Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Raleigh, NC GT40: Sabre
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Rep Power: 29   | Re: Fun with scammers Dimi,
I have sent you a PM trying to set up some help for you - regarding your situation with Coast-To-Coast - with a forum member who lives in Redding (Paolo Cedro is in the greater Redding area.) I will take your lack of response, despite having been logged on several times, to mean that you don't need help with this situation. Good luck with it.
Lynn
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02-03-07, 01:11 PM
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| | simonjrwinter serial GT40 owner 
Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Essex, UK GT40: GTD
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02-03-07, 01:21 PM
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| | David Morton Lifetime Premier Supporter  | |