Five more Aussie's killed in Afghanistan.

Pete

Pete McCluskey.

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MORE DIGGERS NEEDLESSLY DIE:
What the hell are we doing in that backward, barbaric country anyway? It’s worth noting that Australia, along with
the US and 60 other countries, boycotted the 1980 Moscow Olympics. The reason? Russia had invaded Afghanistan. How times change. There remains only one constant: The death of one Aussie boy is not worth all the poppies in that cesspit of a land. Spray every crop, leave them to their decadence and utilise drones to eradicate terrorist cells.
Pickering.
 
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Al Wohlstrom

Pete, That makes far too much sense! I can't condone the loss of one life for the likely outcome of this war. Democracy and freedom isn't everyones cup of tea. We should have learned something from the Russians.
 
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Doug S.

The protoplasm may be 72, but the spirit is 32!
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Pete, I agree with you. The Muslims have been fighting among themselves for milleniums, we can't stop it in 10 years regardless of how many lives are lost.

Get our precious sons and daughters, brothers and sisters, etc. home from that $hI+ hole and use our technology to eradicate the poppy fields and the insurgent hideouts. I hesitate to say it, but nuke them and Iraq if need be, just get this over with and without losing one more soldier's life.

The world should be involved, not just the allies who are fighting this war.

Doug
 
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Keith

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Do not believe that anyone would take issue with you on this one David...

Yes, sorry, thousands and this will increase dramatically once the withdrawal deadline approaches.

Rules of engagement (for British Troops anyway) have also changed. They now cannot "brass up" anyone even if they are carrying a gun unless fired upon first.

You will remember that the Royal Marines were particularly effective when they committed themselves robustly to clearing the Taliban from their patrol areas, using a "fire first" principal. Utilising their particularly effective AI sniper rifles (best in the world and British) they inflicted considerable damage on the Taliban and took back many villages.

Now, the Mercian Regiment in the same area are getting picked off by Taliban snipers every time they venture out.

Disgraceful!

Edit: Holy shit! As I speak a Lancaster Bomber escorted by a Spitfire has just flown over my house @ 100 feet! Must be the Bournemouth Air Show! (sorry for thread drift but too exciting not to mention) Did you ever fly Shackletons David?
 
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Rick Muck- Mark IV

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The saddest part of all this is when we (US, Brits, Aussie's, etc.) leave it will take all of six months to return to what it was and always has been. It will all be for naught. A total waste of the honorable people who are "serving their country" for a political exercise that has no real achevable goal.

Every video I have seen shows nothing but rocks and dirt. When the US bombed early in the war, all they did was make smaller rocks out of big ones.

I don't doubt that at one point in the Soviet excursion into Afganistan some of the Russian leaders hdd to ask themselves "what the hell are we doing and why do we want this shitehole?"

Every lost soldier is one too many...................
 
Pete

Pete McCluskey.

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R.I.P.
 

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Doug S.

The protoplasm may be 72, but the spirit is 32!
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David Morton said:
A bucket of sunshine and turn the whole place to glass.
Hijack us then you bastards.
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Right on, David!

That's what I meant by "nuke 'em".....WWII was essentially ended by a show of force that was undeniably overpowering, the Japanese had no choice but to surrender or be annihilated by a technology against which they had no defense. The incredible energy from a nuclear explosion creates a blinding light and heat of such an intensity that sand becomes glass.....love the way you said it!!!

It would be a risk that the neighboring countries would have to take...I say we give their governments fair warning of what is to come, knowing full well that the bastards may get the information from friendly governmental officials, but then we drop one or two on the areas where they are most entrenched and promise to drop more if the neighboring governments do not cooperate.

It need not result in huge numbers of deaths to be effective. Once the resulting destructive potential becomes evident, I think the governments would crater just like the Japanese did at the end of WWII and then the Taliban and their insurgents might well have no safe harbor. We would, of course, have to be willing to carry through on our promise to use similar force if necessary, should some government decide to provide a friendly atmosphere for the terrorist bastards, but eventually the brutality and totality of the actions would convince everyone that cooperation is in their best interest.

Not a popular opinion, I know, and a bit hawkish of me, which probably surprises a lot on this forum, but like you, I sense nothing but futility in our current actions...other than certain death for more of our beloved military and diplomatic family members.

Desperate times require desperate measures....perhaps it is time to consider what we all were hoping to avoid?

Doug
 
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David Morton

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Pete,
Mea Maxima Culpa.
I regret diverting your thread.
Yesterday was 6 yrs since we lost the Nimrod XV230.
120 sqn crew 3. I was on 120 /crew 3 a few years before
but it was a poignant day yesterday with many of the crew's family making the journey to the National Arboretum.
We are all desperately sorry for these five brave young Australians
who made the ultimate sacrifice and I think everybody on this web site will join in and send their condolences to their now newly bereaved families.



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Crew 3 and the two language specialists.
 
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