The green thing.

Pete McCluskey.

Lifetime Supporter

Checking out at the store, the young cashier
suggested to the older woman that she should
bring her own shopping bags because plastic
bags weren't good for the environment. The
woman apologized and explained, "We didn't
have this green thing back in my earlier days."

The cashier responded, "That's our problem
today. Your generation did not care enough to
save our environment for future generations."
She was right -- our generation didn't have the
green thing in its day. Back then, we returned
milk bottles, pop bottles and beer bottles to the
store. The store sent them back to the plant to
be washed and sterilized and refilled, so it could
use the same bottles over and over. So they really
were recycled. We refilled writing pens with ink
instead of buying a new pen, and we replaced the
razor blades in a razor instead of throwing away
the whole razor just because the blade got dull.
But we didn't have the green thing back in our day.

We walked up stairs, because we didn't have an
escalator in every shop and office building. We
walked to the grocery store and didn't climb into
a 300-horsepower machine every time we had to
go two blocks. But she was right.

We didn't have the green thing in our day.

Back then, we washed the baby's nappies because
we didn't have the throw-away kind. We dried
clothes on a line, not in an energy gobbling machine
burning up 220 volts -- wind and solar power really
did dry our clothes back in our early days. Kids got
hand-me-down clothes from their brothers or
sisters, not always brand-new clothing. But that
young lady is right.

We didn't have the green thing back in our day.

Back then, we had one TV, or radio, in the house
-- not a TV in every room. And the TV had a small
screen the size of a handkerchief (remember
them?), not a screen the size of the county of
Yorkshire. In the kitchen, we blended and stirred
by hand because we didn't have electric machines
to do everything for us. When we packaged a fragile
item to send in the post, we used wadded up old
newspapers to cushion it, not Styrofoam or plastic
bubble wrap. Back then, we didn't fire up an engine
and burn petrol just to cut the lawn. We used a push
mower that ran on human power. We exercised by
working so we didn't need to go to a health club to
run on treadmills that operate on electricity. But
she's right.

We didn't have the green thing back then.


We drank water from a fountain or a tap when we
were thirsty instead of demanding a plastic bottle
flown in from another country. We accepted that
a lot of food was seasonal and didn?t expect that
to be bucked by flying it thousands of air miles
around the world. We actually cooked food that
didn?t come out of a packet, tin or plastic wrap
and we could even wash our own vegetables and
chop our own salad.

But we didn't have the green thing back then.

Back then, people took the tram or a bus, and kids
rode their bikes to school or walked instead of
turning their mothers into a 24-hour taxi service.
We had one electrical outlet in a room, not an
entire bank of sockets to power a dozen appliances.
And we didn't need a computerized gadget to
receive a signal beamed from satellites 2,000
miles out in space in order to find the nearest
pizza joint.

But isn't it sad that the current generation laments how wasteful we old folks were just because we didn't have the green thing back then?
Please forward this on to another selfish old person who needs a lesson in conservation from a young person.

Remember:
Don't make old people mad. We don't like being old in the first place, so it doesn't take much to piss us off.
 

Jim Craik

Lifetime Supporter
Very nice, Pete, thanks!

You know, I remember all those things............
 
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theres not one sentence in that post that I cant relate to, plus back then kids used to climb trees and eat bugs and god forbid play in dirt, and you no what, we hardly ever got sick. think about it

thanks Pete, for the memories

cheers John

Ps and yes I did go to school in Un Zud :chug:
 
Pete what a load of bollocks.
You have not mentioned the dumping of toxic waste in our oceans, nuclear testing in the open atmosphere, agent orange, thalidomide children (bit off track here), chemical exposure at work... the list goes on. The point being I am not saying it still does not hapen, but as a race we are not perfect then or now. But a bit o green can make you feel better (even if the net value adds up to 4/5 of fek all).
Please dont look back and think the righty was being done by future generations. you just didnt have the technology to produce what we have today, for so cheap.
Thank god...

PS; I thank god for allowing me to be an atheist.
 
At an individual level there certainly is greater personal consumption today than in prior years and generations...and that greater personal consumption today generally creates greater personal waste and environmental damage.

However, at an industrial macro level, the industries and activities of the past have been much more damaging. Everything from unregulated strip mining, to complete deforestation, direct ejection of coal soot and other fossil fuel burning into the environment, mass over fishing over the ocean's bio resources, etc. to nuke testing and dumping of toxic waste directly into the ocean. Now we have managed mining and forestry, stack scrubbers, catch limits, no open nuke testing, and little/no dumping of toxic waste into the ocean....at least here in the US. So, it's a stretch to say the past is a "green" past. It aint. Far, far from it.

Today the problem is that we a) have much higher individual consumption expectations (=more waste) at an individual level, and b) we just have much greater numbers....people primarily. At an industrial level we are much, much better to the environment now than 100 years ago. The net effect of these two modern phenomenon (greater numbers/consumption v. "greener" industrial practices) counteract each other somewhat, so it's easy to conclude that today is not that much different than yesterday...but it's very different. The point being that it's not sustainable indefinitely. It's probably not sustainable even in the short term.

A related, but secondary, problem is the use of "green" as a marketing ploy by today's marketers. I recently saw a new 30-story high rise luxury apartment building in Seattle here advertising "green construction" as a marketing point because the apartments used bamboo flooring. Huh? It's a freaking' skyscraper, there's nothing "green" about it regardless of how much bamboo flooring is used. What load of crap. This kind of bs floating around out there just serves to confuse and confound the real issue of personal environmental effect and damage. Tesla and Fisker, for example, are just marketing gimmicks to make the rich not feel so bad about having 30 times the negative environmental impact of their third world (primitive) brethren.

Separating fact from fiction, hyperbole from substance, and commercialization from conservation is a real challenge here. It's probably impossible in fact. So what are we left with? Doing what folks did in years past....recycle your cans and bottles, razors, use natural diapers, yada, yada....which may well have been Pete's original point in the first place...

It's just depressing.
 
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Jackal

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Nothing wrong with getting into a 300 hp car to drive 2 blocks....

Didn't know old people knew about satelites..... or had such good memory.
 
Hopefully we will start respecting the planet we live in a little more in the future.
However to put things into perspective when talking about global warming/climate change/etc. any change that is occurring due to mankind is unlikely to be the main factor causing change.
The main factor in what happens to us in this regard is as a consequence of our star and to put things in perspective this photo says it all:
 

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That big over-puffed fire in the sky can't even warm my butt !
Especially if I'm sitting on it in my house with the A/C blowing full blast , playing Need For Speed on my wall sized TV , drinking beer from a non-refillable bottle , and eating junk food , while waiting for the pizza to be delivered !
All this talk of "green" flairs up my hay fever !
And I don't want a car that doesn't make more horsepower than it has cubic inches , idles - no wait - CAMS like a dragster , and hazes the tires with every automatic up-shift . Or the black smoke from the tail pipe and piston rattle is over powered by the turbo whine .
No actually I'm more green than that , I own several electric vehicles . most are 1/10th scale . The newest of which is an off-roader with 4x4 capable of tearing up everything at 60mph , until its LIPO battery becomes unstable and sets itself , and what ever area in the great out doors its in on fire .( I think this is where Chevy got the idea for that new car )
Pete , I really do appreciate your post . Its all a matter of prospective , and I think its spot on
 
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