Unimaginably brutal, people in Iran

I changed the title so as to be politically correct.

These people are some depraved sick assholes. I tend to like dogs more than people and this sickens me. I couldn't watch the whole thing. They inject acid into the dog to kill the it.

Killing dogs with acid injection - YouTube
 
Hi Al,

It is not about political correctness! I think that is an underlying indication that you expect this behavior to be representative of Iranian people. I know it is not explicitly stated in your post, and I hope that is not your view of the Iranian people (my experience has been far from that in the few Iranian people I have had the pleasure to meet). It could be quite easy to find a horrible video of American people. I don't think you would be happy with a title of "Unimaginably brutal, people in America", and you would be right not to be happy. A lot of people have views of Americans around the world that are extremely distorted and incorrect. I was really impressed with the warmth and hospitality of the American people when I first came here, and still continue to be. I think we should also afford the opportunity to others around the world to also show their hospitality and warmth. Of course, if we find them to be <insert any number of words!> then so be it, but not all the people from the same place are going to be the same.

This is certainly not intended as a rant! Just a note that we should formulate our opinions on the individuals that we deal with.

Sorry for the rambling post!!!

All the best,

Karl
 
Karl, It took place in Iran. I wasn't blaming all Iranians. The Muslim faith tells that dogs are unclean. These men should be shot for their treatment of these defenseless dogs. The "distorted" views grow from continuous terrorist attacks in countries that have taken these people in. I wasn't going there, I was appalled by the sadistic treatment of these dogs. It took place in Iran, the men are Arabic It's not all Arabs or all Iranians, it's these evil men.
 

Doug S.

The protoplasm may be 72, but the spirit is 32!
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I couldn't bring myself to even bring the video up, Al...just the written description of what they were doing was enough to turn my stomach!

I don't understand how people can be so cruel...just doesn't "compute"!

Sadly......

Doug
 
I've never had a video affect me so adversely. I watch about 1 minute of it and turned it off. The person that sent it to me said that the dogs usually are in unbelievable pain for 3 or more minutes. That's a lifetime. I sincerely hope there is Karma. WTF kind of person thinks this up?
 

Doug S.

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I'm with you, Al!

Karma will come back to bite those perps...and if Karma has any sense of irony, it will deliver that "bite" with teeth from the dogs that the perps tortured in the worst possible manner of which I have ever heard.

Still sad for what those dogs had to endure...but glad their misery is over.

Doug
 
It amazes me how people can hurt and kill dogs. Dogs are so human centered in their whole being. They would do anything for us. They are always so glad to see us. It takes an extremely heartless person do do anything horrible to dogs. I really would like karma to bite these people really hard. Some real sick people in the world unfortunately.
 
A society that finds dogs to be repulsive has some serious problems.

A group of Iranian MPs has proposed making it a criminal offence to keep dogs as pets or walk them in public, with offenders subject to 74 lashes or a fine.

Iran’s reformist Shargh newspaper reported on Thursday that 32 members of parliament, who are mostly affiliated to the conservatives, had put forward the proposal for the legislative body to vote on.

If the bill passes the Majlis (Iranian parliament), “walking dogs, trading them or keeping them at home will be punishable by 74 lashes or a fine of 1m to 10m Tomans [an equivalent of £200 to £2,000],” Shargh said.

“Walking and playing with animals such as dogs and monkeys outdoors and in public places are harmful to the health and the peace of other people, especially kids and women, and are against our Islamic culture,” the bill says.

Elias Naderan, Esmail Kowsari and Fatemeh Alia are among influential Iranian parliamentarians who support the proposal.

Iranian police forces, licensed hunters, farmers and shepherds are exempted from the punishment, according to the bill, which aims at cracking down on people who take their pets outdoors.

According to Islamic custom, dogs are unclean. Iranians avoid keeping them at home in general, though a minority, especially in north Tehran’s wealthy districts, enjoy keeping pets.

Iran’s morality police, deployed in public places, have previously cracked down on dog owners, cautioning them or confiscating their animals. They also caution people whose clothes or hairstyles are deemed inappropriate.

Hardliners in Iran are particularly worried about what they call a “cultural invasion” from the west and see pet ownership, especially dogs, as an imitation of western culture.

Senior officials have previously warned citizens against dog ownership, including the police chief, Esmail Ahmadi-Moghaddam, who said two years ago that his forces were ready to deal with those who defied the regulations.

Ayatollah Makarem Shirazi, a prominent hardline cleric, has also previously issued a fatwa against keeping dogs.

It was not clear if the majority of Iranian MPs would approve such a bill but the parliament is dominated by conservatives who are likely to share the views of those behind the proposal.
 
This dog cruelty isn't limited to a few, it's a Muslim doctrine belief. I'm not saying all Muslims, but most likely the majority.

It seems that you can go into a country and change their laws by taking advantage of their democratic stance.

A Dutch Muslim politician has called for a ban on dogs in The Hague, the third-largest city in the Netherlands.

Islamic legal tradition holds that dogs are "unclean" animals, and some say the call to ban them in Holland and elsewhere represents an attempted encroachment of Islamic Sharia law in Europe.

This latest canine controversy -- which the Dutch public has greeted with a mix of amusement and outrage -- follows dozens of other Muslim-vs-dog-related incidents in Europe. Critics say it reflects the growing assertiveness of Muslims in Europe as they attempt to impose Islamic legal and religious norms on European society.

The Dutch dustup erupted after Hasan Küçük, a Turkish-Dutch representative on The Hague city council for the Islam Democrats, vehemently opposed a proposal by the Party for the Animals (Partij voor de Dieren) to make the city more dog friendly.

According to a January 28 report in the Amsterdam-based newspaper De Telegraaf, Küçük counter-argued that keeping dogs as pets is tantamount to animal abuse and he then called for the possession of dogs in The Hague to be criminalized.

According to its website, the Islam Democrats [ID] party is "founded on the Islamic principles of justice, equality and solidarity. ID is a bottom-up response to the large gap between the Muslim and immigrant communities and local politics…ID focuses on the political awareness within the Muslim and immigrant communities. Awareness about the need to organize, but also the need for mutual support."

Paul ter Linden, who represents the Dutch Freedom Party (PVV) on The Hague city council, responded to Küçük by saying: "In this country pet ownership is legal. Whoever disagrees with this should move to another country."

Dutch political commentators believe Küçük's declarations are a provocation designed to stir up the Muslim population in The Hague. Muslims -- who now make up more than 12% of the city's population of 500,000 -- view dogs as ritually unclean animals and Küçük's call for a ban on them is a sure vote-getter, they say.

The incident in Holland follows dog-related controversies in other European countries.

In Spain, two Islamic groups based in Lérida -- a city in the northeastern region of Catalonia where 29,000 Muslims now make up around 20% of the city's total population -- asked local officials to regulate the presence of dogs in public spaces so they do not "offend Muslims."

Muslims demanded that dogs be banned from all forms of public transportation including all city buses as well as from all areas frequented by Muslim immigrants. Muslims said the presence of dogs in Lérida violates their religious freedom and their right to live according to Islamic principles.

After the municipality refused to acquiesce to Muslim demands, the city experienced a wave of dog poisonings. More than a dozen dogs were poisoned in September 2011 (local media reports here, here, here, here and here) in Lérida's working class neighborhoods of Cappont and La Bordeta, districts that are heavily populated by Muslim immigrants and where many dogs have been killed over the past several years.

Local residents taking their dogs for walks say they have been harassed by Muslim immigrants who are opposed to seeing the animals in public. Muslims have also launched a number of anti-dog campaigns on Islamic websites and blogs based in Spain.

In Britain, which has become "ground zero" for Europe's canine controversies, blind passengers are being ordered off buses or refused taxi rides because Muslim drivers or passengers object to their "unclean" guide dogs.

In Reading, for example, one pensioner, a cancer sufferer, was repeatedly confronted by drivers and asked to get off the bus because of his guide dog. He also faced hostility at a hospital and in a supermarket over the animal.

In Nottingham, a Muslim taxi driver refused to carry a blind man because he was accompanied by his guide dog. The taxi driver was later fined £300 ($470).

In Stafford, a Muslim taxi driver refused to carry an elderly blind couple from a grocery store because they were accompanied by their seeing-eye dog.

In Tunbridge Wells, Kent, a blind man was turned away from an Indian restaurant because the owner said it was against his Muslim beliefs to allow dogs into his establishment.

In London, a bus driver prevented a woman from boarding a bus with her dog because there was a Muslim lady on the bus who "might be upset by the dog." As the woman attempted to complain, the doors closed and the bus drove away. When a second bus arrived, she again tried to embark, but was stopped again, this time because the driver said he was Muslim.

Also in Britain, police sniffer dogs trained to spot terrorists at train stations may no longer come into contact with Muslim passengers, following complaints that it was offensive to their religion.

A report for the Transport Department advised that the animals should only touch passengers' luggage because it is considered "more acceptable." British Transport Police still use sniffer dogs -- which are trained to detect explosives -- with any passengers regardless of faith, but handlers are now more aware of "cultural sensitivities."

Sniffer dogs used by police to search mosques and Muslim homes are now being fitted with leather bootees to cover their paws so that they do not cause offense.

Critics say the complaints are just another example of Muslims trying to force their rules and morals on British society. Tory MP Philip Davies said: "As far as I am concerned, everyone should be treated equally in the face of the law and we cannot have people of different religious groups laying the law down. I hope the police will go about their business as they would do normally."

Meanwhile, Muslim prisoners in Britain are being given fresh clothes and bedding after sniffer dogs search their cells.

The inmates say their bedclothes and prison uniforms must be changed according to Islamic law if they have come anywhere near dog saliva. Government rules mean prison wardens must hand out replacement sets after random drug searches to avoid religious discrimination claims.

The dogs have also been banned from touching copies of the Islamic holy book the Koran and other religious items. Prisoners are handed special bags to protect the articles.

In Scotland, the Tayside Police Department apologized for featuring a German shepherd puppy as part of a campaign to publicize its new non-emergency telephone number. The postcards are potentially offensive to the city's 3,000-strong Muslim community.

In Norway, Gry Berg, a blind woman, was denied entry into four taxis in the center of Oslo because she was accompanied by her guide dog.

In France, Marie Laforêt, one of the country's most well-known singers and actresses, appeared in a Paris courtroom in December to defend herself against charges that a job advertisement she placed discriminated against Muslims.

The 72-year-old Laforêt had placed an ad on an Internet website looking for someone to do some work on her terrace in 2009. She specified in the ad that "people with allergies or orthodox Muslims" should not apply "due to a small Chihuahua."

Laforêt claimed that she made the stipulation because she believed the Muslim faith saw dogs as unclean.

The case was taken up by an anti-discrimination group called the Movement against Racism and for Friendship between Peoples (MRAP), which lodged a complaint against Laforêt.

Laforêt's lawyer said his client "knew that the presence of a dog could conflict with the religious convictions of orthodox Muslims. It was a sign of respect." But Muslims rejected her defense.
 

Rick Merz

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If I saw this being done I would have done the same thing to the human trash committing this horrific act. I believe in treating all people with respect but I also believe in standing up for innocent people and animals from acts of cruelty. It is a shame that so many people witness someone getting harmed but just walk away because they are afraid or just do not care. If people would get involved when they witness acts of cruelty then there would be less cruelty in the world.
 
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Doug S.

The protoplasm may be 72, but the spirit is 32!
Lifetime Supporter
Received by email this morning:

"Today, after I watched my dog get run over by a car, I sat on the side
of the road holding him and crying. And just before he died, he licked the tears off my face."

Who could treat an animal with such cruelty when they love us this much??????

There is a special place in hell for those who practice animal cruelty.

Doug
 
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Received by email this morning:

"Today, after I watched my dog get run over by a car, I sat on the side
of the road holding him and crying. And just before he died, he licked the tears off my face."

Who could treat an animal with such cruelty when they love us this much??????

There is a special place in hell for those who practice animal cruelty.

Doug

Yes there is!
 
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