Rcr-p How Sooooooooooon?????? - Page 2

Craig · 01-30-07, 08:39 PM

Using the Subaru engine is a great idea. I like the idea of the 6 even better although ive heard you can get close to 450hp out of the 2.5 without to much trouble, the P car with the 4 or the 6 would be a screamer. I better start collecting cans now!

Fran Hall RCR · 01-31-07, 09:40 AM

Sorry guys ...we have been a little busy...
But here are a collection of shots of the P car...these are more than a month or so old...
The first is a photograph showing the plug with the DLO (daylight openings) lines drawn in.....we used this as a tool to play with detail for the new profile side windows and back lite...

Fran Hall RCR · 01-31-07, 10:01 AM

This is the same photgraph with surface colour airbrushed and also a rear 3/4 sketch..

Fran Hall RCR · 01-31-07, 10:14 AM

Now these are the real deal....as mentioned these are a month old and the window reliefs/moulds have all been done and as you can see we already have a windshield.
These body panels are now in the moulding process with production panels not far away.....

Brett James-McCall · 01-31-07, 10:32 AM

Fran,
Liking that rear diffuser in the pic. V nice.

Brett

Fran Hall RCR · 01-31-07, 10:37 AM

Thanks Brett...working on some CFD for a functional piece...not just a styling exercise.

Bruce B · 01-31-07, 10:37 AM

I'll admit I wasn't blown away by the original P car at Carlisle last year. The chassis impressed me, but the body was, well................. But the new "tweaked" body, YES, I like.

Fran Hall RCR · 01-31-07, 10:40 AM

Bruce,

there is not a single part of the body that hasn't had considerable changes .......refinement takes a long time.....some areas have been through 5-6 variations....
The whole roof section has seen some major changes.......There are some orme subtle changes that are not too eveident in these pics but when the body has a gloss finish you can really appreciate all the time and effort that Brad and Mike and myself have put into this project...
We wanted to maintain the Race styling and not soften the shape too much....
Another note is that we are using production DOT/E Mark lights that are World market compliant...

Brett James-McCall · 01-31-07, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gt40fran

Thanks Brett...working on some CFD for a functional piece...not just a styling exercise.

Never doubted you for a moment my friend

Brett

Bruce B · 01-31-07, 10:58 AM

Thanks Fran, I can see many of the subtle changes. And I figured as good as your chassis' are that you would not stop without going for broke on any body style you produce. I'm impressed, and I don't impress easily. Great job. And going with the flat six concept, I like that as well. Very well done. I think you're going to sell them like hot cakes.

OOPS, not that the flat 4, or V8 concept is bad, but you're definitely thinking outside the box, and that's good for the "kit" car, replicar, self assembles supercar biz.

Fran Hall RCR · 01-31-07, 03:12 PM

Bruce,

With an all up weight of 2000lbs for the Subaru version any of the drivetrains should make it a little flyer.....

Jonathan S · 01-31-07, 04:39 PM

Wow, that is a huge improvement over the original. I am impressed! That may be my next project after the RCR40.

Craig · 01-31-07, 05:14 PM

WOW! thats beautiful, huge improvement, the wait was well worth it, what a great track day car that would make, im actually thinking about selling the 348

Craig

Dave Lindemann · 01-31-07, 07:57 PM

Hi Fran -

Yes, I'm still here....yes, I still have the Esprit (and Europa TCS)....and YES this new RCR-P car REALLY peaks my interest! VERY well done! I particularly like the side view of the red model. I'm curious how you'll handle the area where the door window meets the windshield? Will there be a frame of some sort? Also, will there be some vents at the rear to aid in cooling the engine bay? Being the owner of an early Esprit I'm always concerned about engine cooling! When do you foresee the car being ready for sale? You've really done a fantastic job of fine tuning the shape of the car. I liked the concept of the car before but the body shape (particularly the "dome" shape of the cockpit) didn't do much for me.

As always, best of luck in all you do.

Dave Lindemann

Fran Hall RCR · 01-31-07, 08:05 PM

Gents,
Thanks for the positive comments...its a gamble doing a shape that original...we are all happy with the body and cant wait to start manufacturing cars for sale ....we will have a driving demo car prior to the show season,

Dave,
there is a a very thin A pillar much like the GT40, if you look carefully you can see it in the pictures, we have already made all the woulds for the windows etc etc...so we are cranking forward....
There is a large air outlet on the trailing edge of the tail ...just above the rear diffuser...

One point of note is that this car has a much longer wheelbase than a GT40 and is wider than a Gulf flared GT...so its really a fullsize car...similar to a Corvette in size....but much lower with a roof height of 43 inches.....
Regards

Pat Buckley · 01-31-07, 08:23 PM

Very nice.

Alain Vanhollebeke · 01-31-07, 11:11 PM

well, that's it! One of my employees has a subie, an' I'm gonna club it over the head tomorrow!

FRPGUY · 02-01-07, 07:31 AM

Ok Fran, what are you going to call it? The P-43 , The prototypoe-43 , GT43 or just the RCR-43 ??????