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Old 25th April 2010, 09:55 PM   #1
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Jag XJ13

Business took me to Michigan, so a visit to RCR was worked into the schedule. The Jaguar XJ13 is an intriguing car, so it provided the basis for the visit.

Although only one XJ13 was built by Jaguar, its history is intriguing. Perhaps if it had been given a different number designation it would not have been plagued by such bad luck. Nonetheless, as a reproduction it interests me because:

1. The body lines are classis Jaguar. A bit like an XKE with the passenger and engine compartments switched.

2. The notion of a 12 cylinder is interesting.

3. It is an open top car, although a targa top can be fabricated.

4. The seating position is a bit more upright, more like a Cobra than a GT40

5. It has a boot (trunk) with a fair amount of practical space

6. The classis details, like all those rivets on the body, the louvers on the hood, add to the vintage look

7. The cabin has a bit more space, which should make for a nice highway cruiser

Fran had a partially completed body which he rolled out for our inspection. Nice.

With this car you won’t likely ever see yourself coming or going. It is a rare one.

Gotta’ have a project. This looks like a good one. . . .
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Old 25th April 2010, 10:11 PM   #2
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So you bought one?
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Old 25th April 2010, 10:55 PM   #3
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So you bought one?
Not yet.

Ryan and I are in the process of restoring a 1965 Mustang Fast Back. It goes off to paint in a week. Hope to have it done this summer. Then the Jag moves up to the top of the "next project" list.

So much to do . . . so little time . . . .
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Old 26th April 2010, 07:40 PM   #4
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Good pics, Any more? I think a have a new favorite RCR kit.
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Old 26th April 2010, 08:55 PM   #5
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Re: Jag XJ13

Should have taken more pics. Here are a few shots.

The fuel filler is behind the louvered doors on the side.

Note the door latch mounted on the block of ally.

The boot (trunk) is really big for this sort of car. The original would have had a spare tire, with room to spare.

Doors have an beam cross brace. The hinges are cast pieces.

The tail lights would be sourced from an XKE.

Fran can give you a whole lot more info.
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Old 26th April 2010, 08:58 PM   #6
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The original.
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Old 26th April 2010, 09:00 PM   #7
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Re: Jag XJ13

I've been a fan of the XJ13 since "SportsCarFactory" was making it.

So few ever completed--wonder why?

It just screams for a jag V-12 behind that cockpit, no?

I'm hoping this comes true for you, I for one would like to see a build thread !

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Old 26th April 2010, 09:02 PM   #8
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As I recall the XJ13 had wonderful wheels, do you think they well be able to replicate them?
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Old 26th April 2010, 09:45 PM   #9
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Here is a link to an Australian (Canberra) built XJ13. Stunning in its accuracy, including all original Jaguar glass.

The builder is a local vehical engineer. He did get the quad cam heads to work, a significant achievement.

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Old 26th April 2010, 11:29 PM   #10
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I've been a fan of the XJ13 since "SportsCarFactory" was making it.

So few ever completed--wonder why?

It just screams for a jag V-12 behind that cockpit, no?

I'm hoping this comes true for you, I for one would like to see a build thread !

Doug

My initial plan per Frans suggestion would be a Jag V12 with a stock naturally aspirated intake. Four SU carbs, I believe. Not exactly prototypical (the original had mechanical fuel injection with those 12 gorgeous trumpets) but it would be period correct and hopefully a reliable set up.

Of coure the option of coming up with an appropriate intake manifold with Webers or Dynatek fuel injection would sure be nice and could presumably be explored once all the issues were sorted out.

Only one XJ13 was built. The top brass killed the project because (1) fear it would compete with the XKE that just came out and (2) changes in the racing regulations of the time. Otherwise it would have been competing at Lemans around the same time as the GT 40s and Ferrari's. Now that would have been interesting!
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Old 26th April 2010, 11:31 PM   #11
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As I recall the XJ13 had wonderful wheels, do you think they well be able to replicate them?
I suspect that Fran will come up with something similar to the original style wheels. Looked at some nice examples while I was visiting.
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Old 27th April 2010, 05:14 AM   #12
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Re: Jag XJ13

Heres another nice XJ13 thread showing a build in progress.

The mythical Jaguar XJ13 mythical Jaguar XJ13

I believe an original engine for one of these turned up on ebay germany a few months back.
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Old 27th April 2010, 05:17 AM   #13
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Re: Jag XJ13

Hopefully I wont get balsted as this auction is finished and for info only

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original Jaguar XJ-13 / XJ13 Motor Rarität Handmade V12 bei eBay.de: Antrieb, Motor Getriebe (endet 11.03.10 15:35:17 MEZ)
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Re: Jag XJ13

Beautiful car and a stunning piece of art as well...

some images attached and here is a nice piece of work in the form of a Diecast model;
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Yes Sir, those Brits can make beautiful cars. Thanks for posting. I for one will look forward to Chuck and Ryan's new adventure.
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Re: Jag XJ13

I've always loved the XJ13.
Here is a project I was working on before my RCR P4 arrived. I had to push it asside until the new car is done. I had the jag v12 for 10 years waiting for something to put it in, and finally came up with the "C" type. You can find these engines everywhere, but the manifolds are rather rare I think. It would look cool in that car!
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I've always loved the XJ13.
Here is a project I was working on before my RCR P4 arrived. I had to push it asside until the new car is done. I had the jag v12 for 10 years waiting for something to put it in, and finally came up with the "C" type. You can find these engines everywhere, but the manifolds are rather rare I think. It would look cool in that car!
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Gorgeous.

Where did you find the intakes for the Webers?

I agree. That engine would like great in the XJ13. Of course it also looks great in its present location. Very nice.
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Beautiful car and a stunning piece of art as well...

some images attached and here is a nice piece of work in the form of a Diecast model;
Autoart Jaguar XJ13
Just placed an order for an XJ13.

The 1 / 18 scale version, not the 1 / 1 version.

Got to start somewhere !

Thanks for the lead Randy.
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I believe that is my XJ13 kit in the photos. I will be starting my build log soon.
There is alot of mis-information about the original car. That original engine sold on ebay Germany is now back in England where it belongs and in very good hands. It was an amazing automotive archeological find. To read more about that engine and many previously unreleased details about the original Jaguar XJ13 project the web site attached is a must. I believe Neville is now the worlds formost source of knowledge on this car. Peter Wilson was one of the original engineers in the Jaguar competition dept from 1961-1966 and I also recommend his book "Cat out of the Bag". According to Neville, Peter is currently working on a new book specifically about XJ13.
More details about my car to follow.
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Re: Jag XJ13

Mike:

Thanks for the links. Very interesting info

When do you plan to take delivery? The Jag I looked at visiting Fran looked like it was about ready to go - at least as far as the body was concerned. Very nice.

Will be looking forward to your build blog.
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