Without intending to offend anyone, I would like to see us discourage long signatures, especially those with graphics. It seems to me that the length and complexity of signatures on a given forum are inversely proportional to the usefullness of that same forum. If you want an example of an excellent forum with nice people, great tech, and short sigs, look no further than the forum you're viewing right now. On the other hand, go check out corvetteforum.com or mustangworld.com (I'm sure there are many more examples) if you want bad example where a dial-up user might wait for five minutes to load a page of meaningless banter, emoticons and huge sigs with blingy graphics.