MK1 to MKII flip and flop

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Mike Christian

• Jun 23, 2009

• #1

I was at Superformance HQ yesterday with a friend admiring the cars yet again. I was shown some parts including spare rear clips. I have a MKII, but I have always admired look of the rear clip without the snorkels. Here is a picture of 1047 at Amelia Island with the look I like:

Ford GT40 Restoration - Chassis 1031/1047

It turns out that the spare MKII rear clips SPF has in stock are without snorkels. Hmmm.

Then, Barry at SPF says that some have bought replacement front and rear clips of the alternate version with the intent of swapping between the MK1 and MKII look. Anyone on this forum doing that? What issues do you have, if any, with doing that?

Mike

 

Rick Muck- Mark IV

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• Jun 23, 2009

• #2

I have not done it, but the rear "afterstructures" on the MK I and MK II are diiferent. The MK II has the quick jacks inboard set about 10-12" apart where the MK Is are 30-34" apart. I have one of each here so I can post pictures if you wish. The tubular structures that bolt to the rear suspension carrier are also different per MK.

The front and rear clips will interchange otherwise, although the MK I sills are flared at the rear EXCEPT on the optional "narrow tail" MK I.

 

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Johan

• Jun 23, 2009

• #3

The MK II oil cooler will be a problem with the MK I tail.

 

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Mike Christian

• Jun 23, 2009

• #4

Rick, pictures would be great.

Johan, thanks, I will look into that too.

 

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Daryl Adams

• Jun 24, 2009

• #5

SpyderMike said:

Then, Barry at SPF says that some have bought replacement front and rear clips of the alternate version with the intent of swapping between the MK1 and MKII look. Anyone on this forum doing that? What issues do you have, if any, with doing that?

Mike

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That's interesting. When I got my car I was initially disappointed with the look of the front wheel arches. They looked "wrong" to my eye. Then I checked a photo of Adrian Newey's original car, which looked like mine, and I was a bit less concerned. From what I understand, the first half-dozen or so SPF MKI's (mine among them) had the "Newey" arches, then they changed the molds. I was most aware of this when I saw a photo of Laurent Gauthier's MKI. I've grown to accept mine, but a spare clip might be an attractive idea. Anybody know what a spare nose costs?

 

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Mike Christian

• Jun 24, 2009

• #6

Daryl,

I don't know about a MKI front, but I was rough quoted $5K for a MKII rear clip. Calll Barry at SPF - he will tell you.

Mike

 

Rick Muck- Mark IV

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• Jun 24, 2009

• #7

Mike,

I will post pictures later today. I am on my way to the warehouse.

 

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Mike Christian

• Jun 24, 2009

• #8

no rush Rick...I am in the plotting and scheming phase...

 

Rick Muck- Mark IV

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• Jun 24, 2009

• #9

OK,

Here are pictures. Note the difference in the MK II (Dark blue tub) rear structure and the MK I (Black) tubs. As I measure it, the MK II oil cooler will clear the MK I rear clip so that is NOT an issue. To do the MK II to MK I "chango-presto" will only require the rear structure and the clip. Or vica-versa, whatever floats your boat.

See these photos of the two of the three cars I have in stock (Sorry, Ron, shamless commercial plug here)

 

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Mike Christian

• Jun 24, 2009

• #10

call me kooky, but when I look at the hinge points of the MKI and the MKII rear clam they look like that are at roughly the same location in space.

I think you are saying that that entire structure from the shock attach point back is different between the two, no? I am starting to see it in your pictures...

 

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Rick Muck- Mark IV

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• Jun 24, 2009

• #11

Mike,

The rear clip pivot points for the different Marks ARE the same, but the quick jack support structure is different and the Mk I tail is not notched to clear the narrower quick jack points of the MK II. That is the difference.

 

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Mike Christian

• Jun 24, 2009

• #12

I see...I just saw this picture someone posted on another thread which helps me visualize the MKI.

Thanks Rick.

 

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Richard

• Jun 29, 2009

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Mike, hope tese help.

 

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Mike Christian

• Jun 29, 2009

• #14

That does help Richard. Thank you!

Mike