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24th May 2007, 03:29 PM
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| | wealdenengineer 10 tenths 
Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: East Sussex, UK
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| SPF MK2 Fuel system For you guys without the late modified fuel tanks, here is my solution to the fuel delivery problems on the mark2. All pipework, pumps, filters etc are out of view under the oil cooler panel. The system incorporates a Carter 100gph low pressure pump, feeding to a 3 litre header tank, which then feeds the high pressure pump, two filters and return lines to the main tank. |
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24th May 2007, 03:53 PM
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| | Neal Lifetime Premier Supporter 
Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Seattle, WA, US GT40: GT40 NZ
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| Re: SPF MK2 Fuel system Very creative Frank!
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24th May 2007, 11:28 PM
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| | Bigblockquad 3 Tenths 
Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Norcal GT40: SPF GT
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| Re: SPF MK2 Fuel system Frank,
What kind of problems have you experienced? When I drove the Superformance Demo back in Oct/06 the cockpit smelled of gas. Is your system a fix for the vapor problem or better delivery. Or both?
Thanks in advance
Rich. |
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24th May 2007, 11:54 PM
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| | Mark Worthington 10 tenths 
Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Massachusetts GT40: RF No. 36
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| Re: SPF MK2 Fuel system Frank, that's an extremely clever bit of engineering and packaging. Very noce job!
Where's the battery on that thing?
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25th May 2007, 12:51 AM
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| | minerl 2 Tenths 
Join Date: May 2005 Location: Chewelah, WA GT40: SPF P2133
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| Re: SPF MK2 Fuel system The fuel smell problem has been traced to non-contiguous welds on the filler neck assemblies. There is some debate as to whether this is really the cause of the smell but the cars that have this problem seem to get "fixed" when the filler necks are replaced with a full 360 degree welded version. The reason for the swirl pot like Frank's above is because the fuel pickup tubes are located in the back of the tanks. What do you suppose happens when you are low on fuel and begin a downhill run. You guessed it, you run out of gas. My solution is not quite as elegant as Frank's but it gets the job done. I mounted the swirl pot just below the two pumps. A third pump is located under the oil cooler like in Fran's application and feeds the swirl pot. I bought the swirl pot from SM Engineering in the UK for about $160.
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25th May 2007, 03:48 AM
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| | wealdenengineer 10 tenths 
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| Re: SPF MK2 Fuel system Lynn, what is the capacity of your swirl pot?, and the flow rate of your low pressure pump ? These are two parameters I had to calculate to keep the big Roush engine going on the track, Its all interesting how we come up with different solutions for the same issue, Frank |
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25th May 2007, 10:31 AM
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| | minerl 2 Tenths 
Join Date: May 2005 Location: Chewelah, WA GT40: SPF P2133
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| Re: SPF MK2 Fuel system Frank, the swirl pot is about 2 quarts. This is clearly not big enough for a serious racing application. Your solution is much better but what I was looking for was a mild "street" version to solve the problem. Of course there are street apps like a long mountain pass that takes tens minutes to descend at 100 mph ( like Snoqualmie Pass outside Seattle) that neither technique is going to solve. You would need more capacity that there is room to fit. As for the pump down in the "hole", I used a Carter 4601HP.
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25th May 2007, 03:01 PM
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| | Neal Lifetime Premier Supporter 
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| Re: SPF MK2 Fuel system Great looking setup Lynn.
Wouldn't recommend extended 100mph jaunts in that area Lynn!
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