The italian racing Superformance

Finally this sunday I was able to meet in person Alex Spagna, the owner of this wonderful superformance mk2 racing in the historic classic.
The guy is very kindly, and started to talk to me when I was the only one telling him "hey, wonderful superformance! congratulation!".Very few people here knows the existance of such wonderful replicas,italians are mostly closed to german and italian cars (mostly porsche and bmw,as well as the reds,for who can afford it) or some second hand pure american or british racers.
The Compuware-bad boy Corvette c6r is now here racing and winning all, as for tradition of that mighty 'vette.

Alex told me he asked the mk2 directly to factory with race spec (I didnt know spf dont sell kits and spare parts also for others of their continuations,they wanna u to proove u own the car),even if it is clear the origin of spf masterpiece is not at all the race track.
Alex had several problems in these years to keep the car running well for endurance racings (this time was a 2 hours endurcance classic,he got the pole position but cant race again for engine problems).His car has the 427 7.0 liter engine,and features weber's ida 48.
When I talked to him, it was obvious for me to ask why he didnt choose something (IMHO) much more racing, as for example fran's RCR ones or british ex racers.Seems down here fia approves only cars with monocoque (alex dunno also rcr are all monos)and spaceframes chassis are not allowed to race.
Being a 427 car, the gearbox is a problem.He knows the T44, but weight and price makes it very very hard to be part of his car.All this spf mk2 was build in america (he told me this, even if i knew spf are build in south africa).Also about the color he said he wanna keep it "original" as spf continuation are considered (seems the chassis starting with 2 have a sort of palmares too),cause THAT mk2 replica for too many (me included) would be mostly black and white stripes...

I remain of my opinion.This car is simply awesome, but for pure racing I think it will be better and surely cheaper to start from RCR mono,cause spf are much more "wonderful street" racers (tha gauges are incredibly nice).

Think guys in Michigan can satisfy a full budget request of a pure racer with setup,engine and trans factory build (and also the choosing of a 7.0 liters 427 isnt for me the best one for racing.Does it have SO many more usable hp than a well done 351w?.Dunno if spf can make the same (maybe yes, and I am worng), but being the monocoque the only problem for the racing omologation here the choosing will be restricted only to these 2 manifacturers,excluding nearly all the hill climb british racers I like so much.

Wonderful car, and very kindly guy.the weekend of racing was very cool.:thumbsup:

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Keith

Moderator
Fantastic story and pictures Paulo! Thanks for posting mate.. :)

As for the Monocoque construction, I believe the reason is simply that as a "continuation" car, the SPF has an identical chassis to the original and that would be the only form acceptable to the organisers of Historic racing.

The RCR chassis, is not built after the form of the originals, so I would hazard a guess that it would not be eligible for that class of racing.
The reason that all parts should come from SPF is to keep the integrity of the continuation for Historic regulations.

Whatever, good to see one racing in Italy!

AS for the Roush 427, my guess is that perhaps Enduros are not it's forte. BTW did you find out which gearbox he is running?
 
He didnt told me Keith,I suspect it was an ordinary Zf..or whatelse is able to move a 427.He knows the problem of the T44, also I gave him some tips to find the europeans ones without asking to america.Seems for Alex the main problem is the weight of the ford t44, more than the price.
The car he owns is a top level one, it is disappointing not to see her win.

Weren't spf actually semi-monocoques?

the pic I have of this mk2 back is this one:
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Keith

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SPF are steel mono identical to original, are licensed by Safir (owners of the GT40 name) thus entitled to be called officially GT40P as per originals.

But the original/replica story will keep you entertained for years!

Thanks again for posting the excellent pics Paulo...

Ciao bello.... :)

PS of course the monocoque has front and rear 'space frame' like extensions to carry support for bodywork, radiator, gearbox, etc as it your photo of rear
 
Hi Paolo

Nice photos. Did you manage to get any pics of the engine bay area?

I haven't seen the chassis plate in the position behind the driver as shown in the photo above. Is that normal or has the owner moved it there?

Regards


Cam
Auckland, NZ
 

Rick Muck- Mark IV

GT40s Sponsor
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Seriously, he wheel to wheel races a car with no safety/roll cage nor fuel cell? That is nuts.

Some of the sanctioning bodies are allowing no cage cars as they replicate the "era" when none were used. Other require a cage. I have recently quoted an SPF GT 40 "R" car to an Itailian for this series but they are now requiring different specifications due to the sucess of this car in the past.
 

Ron Earp

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Some of the sanctioning bodies are allowing no cage cars as they replicate the "era" when none were used.


I understand it when we're talking about historic cars racing at Goodwood or other such exhibitions. Or historic cars "racing" for a few parade laps at a special event. Not sure I understand it for active wheel to wheel racing in 2010. I suppose you makes your choices and take your chances.
 
I dont think Alex changed the chassis plate position.
He seems very serious in keeping the car exactly as the company/builder gave him (also for the matter of the color).The car should be from 2008-2009 as production, maybe they have changed that spec. during the years,and surely there will be a reason.

The fact anyway SPF owns the rights for the "continuation" story makes it the only available replica around able to race official Fia events (down here nearly all historical events are),but this is a problem cause the car on track can't proof its real value,and this is a shame cause it is nearly always winning the prize of the nicest car present at the event.

Ron u are right, the missing of rollcage is insane and scary in such powerful car.
If I am not wrong, also Jim J6 told inside his mk4 the roll cage was not present in its original configuration.Suspect also this point is an original "problem"they have to manage when racing in these cathegory.
The historical racing down here is very serious,if they make parades they just go slowly around medieval towns, but when they make the "serious" event the dangerous (and sometime deadly) crashes are very very frequent.

This time nothing happens, but in last Monza's Coppa Intereuropa I saw a too bad crash between a Ferrari daytona Gr.4 and the rear of an incredibly nice Maserati type 61 Birdcage.
The maser was 1 meter shorter after that.....
 
have many many other pics of the event, just I ask if maybe is better to open another discussion into paddock section not to be OT here in spf discussion.Just let me know where I can post pics....

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LOL...she is an Hungarian strip dancer...posing over a 997 Porsche gt3..LOL..not italian at all and not a gt40 at all..LOL..pure est european beauty (and she is also a nurse..LOL..I have a fresh stainless steel deep burning from a motorbike over my right leg..she nearly cured me there..ohh gisus, those nurses from cold countries...!)

But YES she is definitely a bella donna !
 

Keith

Moderator
The fact anyway SPF owns the rights for the "continuation" story makes it the only available replica around able to race official Fia events (down here nearly all historical events are),but this is a problem cause the car on track can't proof its real value,and this is a shame cause it is nearly always winning the prize of the nicest car present at the event.

Well you see Paulo that is exactly the point. What is and what isn't a 'replica'.

Some see SPF as 'replica' whilst owners (naturally) see them as 'continuation' and thus no replica.

If Italian FIA or equivalent allow them (SPF) to race in Historic I think that is fantastic as long as they race with 'period' pieces - Roush 427, in my opinion is not acceptable for this just because they are the same CI. Personally, if your Italian friend had chosen a MKI, then he would have had many more choices in the engine department - all of them with proven reliability, kinder to gearboxes, and faster on many tracks.... 255, 289, 302, 305 (?) 351 and others I'm sure.

Flame on!

PS The Pit Popsie Picture that Paulo Posted (PPPPPPPP - great aliteration)
can be seen most nights at the Pepenero Topless Bar in Riccione, one of my favourite places near Rimini and also home to the fabulous El Paradiso nightclub... :)

PPS Ron, yes: no cage, no safety cell - mad +1
 

Doug S.

The protoplasm may be 72, but the spirit is 32!
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If Italian FIA or equivalent allow them (SPF) to race in Historic I think that is fantastic as long as they race with 'period' pieces - Roush 427, in my opinion is not acceptable for this just because they are the same CI. Personally, if your Italian friend had chosen a MKI, then he would have had many more choices in the engine department - all of them with proven reliability, kinder to gearboxes, and faster on many tracks.... 255, 289, 302, 305 (?) 351 and others I'm sure.

Agreed, Keith! While measuring 427 CID, the bored/stroked SBF 351W variant is NOT the same as an FE 427.....IMHO it is a much better engine and much more developed, to be sure (FE's are frequently entered in PHR's Engine Master's competition but seldom place--in fact, the Fords that DO place seem to be the Windsor based Clevors or even the old "boat anchor" M-400 335 series engines). Assuming that the FIA WOULD require the MK1 to race with period correct engines, I'd be surprised if a 351W engine would be allowed....unless I am unaware of them being raced back in the 1960's.....IIRC it was only the 8.2" deck height SBFs.

IMHO, if the FIA were to insist on period correct mechanicals, that would seem to require the T44 transaxle, too.

No comment on the Pit Popsie Photo :stunned: !

Doug
 
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