Jim Rosenthal
Supporter
No thread on Russia invading Crimea?
If you ask me, this is positive proof that Vladimir Putin is off his rocker.
If you ask me, this is positive proof that Vladimir Putin is off his rocker.
...if an American base was similarly under threat how would America act?
Pete, Ukraine had a Western-leaning government at least once since the breakup of the USSR, and their military bases weren't under threat at that time. And a military base is completely capable of defending itself. I don't believe their bases are under any threat at all. I think the current political instability in Ukraine is being used as an excuse by Putin to invade the Crimean peninsula and take it over. It's already a semi-autonomous region with a government of its own, but part of Ukraine. By the time this is over, it won't be part of Ukraine any more. Unless Ukraine is part of the Russian Federation, or whatever they call it, in which case the entire question will then be irrelevant.
Pete, Ukraine had a Western-leaning government at least once since the breakup of the USSR, and their military bases weren't under threat at that time. And a military base is completely capable of defending itself. I don't believe their bases are under any threat at all. I think the current political instability in Ukraine is being used as an excuse by Putin to invade the Crimean peninsula and take it over. It's already a semi-autonomous region with a government of its own, but part of Ukraine. By the time this is over, it won't be part of Ukraine any more. Unless Ukraine is part of the Russian Federation, or whatever they call it, in which case the entire question will then be irrelevant.
And a military base is completely capable of defending itself. I don't believe their bases are under any threat at all.
Russia's military bases in Ukraine are under threat, if an American base was similarly under threat how would America act?
Bob. Shut up. Who gives a shit?
There are much bigger things to consider at the moment than that sort of crap.
Just face the front and shut the fuck up.
Apparently the Cold War only ended in the wishful thinking of the west. So the larger question is what's to stop Mr. Putin from systematically rebuilding the Soviet Union should he choose to do so.
Perhaps it's time for more fiber in your diet or a nap...
its a fundamentally different world Larry.In a general sense, the world is reacting to this situation the same way it did in the 1930s when another power-hungry dictator decided he'd do as HE pleased...even down to the whole "let's-just-give-him-country-"X"-and-maybe-he'll-stop" thing. You know, the ole "feed the alligator the other guy and maybe he won't eat me" tactic.
The world never learns. Neville Chamberlain apparently is still very much alive and well and leading many countries simultaneously these days.
its a fundamentally different world Larry.
You guys over there may not realise it, but Russia's gas is probably more important to Europe than the Middle East's oil. And he can turn it off by sending it all to China instead.
The west has, sold itself down the river on energy resources. There is no viable replacement energy source and won't be for decades.
Guess how easy it is for me to sell Gas right now! My advice to anyone in the market, buy and buy long. It's going to start to really hurt your budgets.