What are all the abbreviations?

Hi

I looked at a countless threads about peoples builds etc. I noticed things like, Lola, J-car, TSC, RCR, FR, GTD, MDA and other things...

What is all that? I mean, I know TSC/RCR but the others, is that type of car/style or just more companies?

IS this listed anywhere for quick reference?

Thanks man.

So basicaly Mk1/Mk2/Mk3/Mk4 etc designate the 'type' of car. T44, ZF etc designated the type of gearbox used in that type of car and GTD/SPF/RCR/TSC/Lola etc are the builders (companies or individuals) that build those cars (mk1s 2s etc)

I got that right?

To save on posting another thread, given I am looking at getting an MK1 body style GT40, what variations of MK1 is there?, I noticed SPF do SPF and GT 'R' etc. That is kind of what im meaning here.

Appreciated.

G-man said:

Thanks man.

So basicaly Mk1/Mk2/Mk3/Mk4 etc designate the 'type' of car. T44, ZF etc designated the type of gearbox used in that type of car and GTD/SPF/RCR/TSC/Lola etc are the builders (companies or individuals) that build those cars (mk1s 2s etc)Yes, apart from Lola who did not make any GT40 stuff after there initial design work was completed for Ford

I got that right?Just about

To save on posting another thread, given I am looking at getting an MK1 body style GT40, what variations of MK1 is there?, I noticed SPF do SPF and GT 'R' etc. That is kind of what im meaning here.
The SPF GT'R' is a competition or 'Race' version of their car- Roll cage, uprated springs/dampers, etc etc. With regard to the MKI body style,essentially most of these kit suppliers now have what I would call the 'final' MKI body style, however there were several rear wheel arch flare designs along with rear spoilers & various nose spoilers/tabs etc developed by race teams & owners during the cars competition life, some were 'homologated' others were not, some look good, others less so

Appreciated.

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All or most kit manufacturers of GT40 have the exterior body shape of the GT40 made from F/Glass which is bonded or riveted onto the chassis, regardless of what that chassis is made from or how . eg space frame or monocoque. The originals had a steel monocoque including the roof spider. Not many kits have this, being F/Glass copies.

jac mac said:

All or most kit manufacturers of GT40 have the exterior body shape of the GT40 made from F/Glass which is bonded or riveted onto the chassis, regardless of what that chassis is made from or how . eg space frame or monocoque. The originals had a steel monocoque including the roof spider. Not many kits have this, being F/Glass copies.

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Im looking into Carbon Fiber for body and Chasis to be more 'modern supercar' like. Really appreciate your thoroughness. :thumbsup:

G-man said:

Im looking into Carbon Fiber for body and Chasis to be more 'modern supercar' like. Really appreciate your thoroughness. :thumbsup:

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Whatever floats your boat, just remember everyone may not agree with you, I would not even know, having never been asked to drive one & I having lasted this long topside doubt I would be silly enough to allow anyone else to try & show me how good it was/is. We could go on for days as to what any of us think comprises a 'modern supercar', to me its a moving goalpost, comes down to whatever tick's all the box's & since each one of us has a different set of box's to tick, nobody will ever agree, They are all bloody useless to me since I doubt any could get up my driveway without severe damage to their nether regions!!

jac mac said:

Dont think so..
Lola, UK car builder from 60's[ last century] did prototype work for ford that evolved into GT40

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When you write it like that even I feel old.......

jac mac said:

FR, dont know myself

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Willing to bet George means "RF", which would be Roaring Forties, a replica manufacturer from Australia that went out of business and has been reborn.

Ian

Jac, when other people pay for my car, thats when there strong opinion would matter, till then, whocares if they disagree.

To me a super car is basicaly a car that handles like on rails, goes very fast and is made of Carbon Fiber. So a GT40 made of Carbon Fiber to me = supercar as its using exotic/supercar materials (Enzo, Aventador, Murciellago, Mclaren F1 etc)

Ron, lol.

Ian, I knew about the one in australia RF, I thought I read FR somewhere, maybe confused myself.

G-man said:

Jac, when other people pay for my car, thats when there strong opinion would matter, till then, whocares if they disagree.

To me a super car is basicaly a car that handles like on rails, goes very fast and is made of Carbon Fiber. So a GT40 made of Carbon Fiber to me = supercar as its using exotic/supercar materials (Enzo, Aventador, Murciellago, Mclaren F1 etc)

Ron, lol.

Ian, I knew about the one in australia RF, I thought I read FR somewhere, maybe confused myself.

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Could be FFR - Factory Five Racing. They don't make GT40 replicas, but are talked about frequently here regarding their Cobras and GTM.

Ian

Isn't Lola still going? As in the Lola Aston Martin at last years Le Mans.

As for the MK1 body. The essential design didn't change from about 66' with the edition of the Le Mans nose. However, various spoilers, canards, wheel arches were used depending on the race. As far as I am aware the MK1 was never fitted with periscopes.

jonnyb said:

Isn't Lola still going? As in the Lola Aston Martin at last years Le Mans.

As for the MK1 body. The essential design didn't change from about 66' with the edition of the Le Mans nose. However, various spoilers, canards, wheel arches were used depending on the race. As far as I am aware the MK1 was never fitted with periscopes.

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Periscopes?

G-man said:

Periscopes?

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On the MK2 there are 2 "periscopes" on the rear deck either side of the engine vent panel that are used to cool the rear brakes. Some people put these on a MK1 body. But as far as I am aware they were never fitted to the "original" MK1.

O, those Alien looking antennas behind the screen. Thats why I like the Mk1 body. No weird looking antennas and no 'stuck on' vents on the sides like the MK2 but rather are moulded into the body like the Lamborghini Diablos.

But good to learn

I noticed some MK1s had on the rear 2 lights per side similar to MK2 while majority have the single light thats split in half for blinker/brake, was that just a random thing or was there a specific reason for the Double?

jac mac said:

Dont think so..
Lola, UK car builder from 60's[ last century] did prototype work for ford that evolved into GT40 [ google Eric Broadley ],
J-Car, ford honeycomb/alloy prototype that evolved into the MKIV GT
TSC, Tornado Sports Cars & RCR, Race Car Replicas you know.
FR, dont know myself
GTD & MDA, two former GT40 kit builders no longer trading IIRC
T44, 4 spd transaxle built for Ford for big block use in MKII & MKIV
ZF, Transaxle fitted to MKI GT40, now built & sold by RBT, vendor on this site.
FE, Engine type fitted to MKII GT40 & MKIV GT.

keep reading & google the stuff as it comes up, its like cheese, good things take time.., Oh & no doubt you will ask, DIY, do it yourself, after a lifetime of being ph**ked around by others its the only way!!

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The J-Car is from appendix J regulations in the FIA Regulation which allowed to run cars with limited production numbers. The J-Car evolved to the MK-IV after the Ken Miles accident at Riverside. Ford built 12 chassis (11 and 12 chassis were spare cars and they were later finish in MK-IV body)

Lola had built the Lola GT which was the base for the Ford GT after Ford failed to purchase Ferrari. Lola when into bankruptcy after their last try in F1 in 1997 (MasterCard F1). The company was acquired by Martin Birrane. They failed to be one of the 4 teams selected by FIA in 2010 new entries (1Malaysia (Lotus, Team Lotus in 2011 and who know in 2012), HRT (Campos Meta F1), Virgin and USAF1 (that failed to enter last year))

ZF is a german manufacturer (gearbox etc). ZF and Ford built a joint venture factory in the US to build CVT transaxle. The ZF used on the GT40 was 5 speed (DS-25). RBT builds a 5 speed and a 6 speed version of the transaxle and spare parts. A similar Transaxle was used in the BMW M1 (built by Lamborghini) and Panteras. Early GT-40 MK-I 289 used an Italian Transaxle made by Coletti.

It was not mentioned in the abbreviations but ERA stands for ERA Replicas Automobiles which could be the oldest Cobra and GT replica builders built in the USA.

Hello! I'm looking for rear MKII periscope dimensions (preferably CAD DXF). Or, one I can purchase, mold, and make two.

Many thanks,
Don

jonnyb said:

Isn't Lola still going? As in the Lola Aston Martin at last years Le Mans.

As for the MK1 body. The essential design didn't change from about 66' with the edition of the Le Mans nose. However, various spoilers, canards, wheel arches were used depending on the race. As far as I am aware the MK1 was never fitted with periscopes.

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The definitive nose was designed by Len Bailey in 1965 It first appeared on the FAV Linden Green P/1006 at the 1965 Le Mans. MkI did have snorkels periscopes on them. Alan Manns Lightweights in the 1966 season had them. Some MKI were supplied with MKII rear clamshell See Ronnie Spains book GT40 or John Allens and Gordon Jones book for more details.
Regards Allan

d0naldashw0rth said:

Hello! I'm looking for rear MKII periscope dimensions (preferably CAD DXF). Or, one I can purchase, mold, and make two.

Many thanks,
Don

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Don - best bet is to start another thread with the appropriate subject and what it is that you’re searching for. Also, search for Bill Hough as I believe he makes these still. [email protected] is the last email addy I have for him.