A bit of reality for the Druids out there!

Jim Craik

Lifetime Supporter
Did you even read your article?

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One of the signatories, Frank Nuttall, a professor of medicine, said he believed the Earth was becoming warmer, despite his signature.
"This issue is whether the major reason for this is from human activities. I consider that inconclusive at the present time," he said.
A spokesman for the Royal Society, Britain’s national academy of science, said: “The world’s leading climate experts at the Nobel Prize-winning Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change believe that it is greater than 90 per cent likely that human activity is responsible for most of the observed warming in recent decades. That is a pretty strong consensus.
“The science has come a long way since 1998 and it continues to point in one direction - the need to reduce greenhouse gas emissions to avert dangerous climate change.”
 
Did you even read your article?

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One of the signatories, Frank Nuttall, a professor of medicine, said he believed the Earth was becoming warmer, despite his signature.
"This issue is whether the major reason for this is from human activities. I consider that inconclusive at the present time," he said.
A spokesman for the Royal Society, Britain’s national academy of science, said: “The world’s leading climate experts at the Nobel Prize-winning Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change believe that it is greater than 90 per cent likely that human activity is responsible for most of the observed warming in recent decades. That is a pretty strong consensus.
“The science has come a long way since 1998 and it continues to point in one direction - the need to reduce greenhouse gas emissions to avert dangerous climate change.”
Is that the same Nobel organization that gave Obama the Peace prize after a few months in office?

You don't think that maybe the Nobel Committee is a little compromised politically?

You compare that to 31,000 scientists, 9,000 with PHDs?
 

Cliff Beer

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Anyone who thinks we're not crapping all over this planet and severly screwing it up just isn't paying attention......

Oh, yeah, and the holocaust never happened, there aren't any gay people in Iran, and Clinton didn't inhale nor have sex with Monica, Wall Street is just trying to earn an honest buck, the ultra-rich pay their fair share of tax, malpractice insurance premiums mean docs don't get huge salaries, and politicians just want to represent your best interests in DC.....

Oh brother.
 
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Anyone who thinks we're not crapping all over this planet and severly screwing it up just isn't paying attention......

Oh, yeah, and the holocaust never happened, there aren't any gay people in Iran, and Clinton didn't inhale nor have sex with Monica, Wall Street is just trying to earn an honest buck, the ultra-rich pay their fair share of tax, malpractice insurance premiums mean docs don't get huge salaries, and politicians just want to represent your best interests in DC.....

Oh brother.
Love it Cliff :thumbsup:
 

Jim Craik

Lifetime Supporter
Anyone who thinks we're not crapping all over this planet and severly screwing it up just isn't paying attention......

Oh, yeah, and the holocaust never happened, there aren't any gay people in Iran, and Clinton didn't inhale nor have sex with Monica, Wall Street is just trying to earn an honest buck, the ultra-rich pay their fair share of tax, malpractice insurance premiums mean docs don't get huge salaries, and politicians just want to represent your best interests in DC.....

Oh brother.
Cliff+++++++++++++++++++1
 
Anyone who thinks we're not crapping all over this planet and severly screwing it up just isn't paying attention......

Oh, yeah, and the holocaust never happened, there aren't any gay people in Iran, and Clinton didn't inhale nor have sex with Monica, Wall Street is just trying to earn an honest buck, the ultra-rich pay their fair share of tax, malpractice insurance premiums mean docs don't get huge salaries, and politicians just want to represent your best interests in DC.....

Oh brother.
The new Communist Manifesto! Thanks for sharing.
 
Gravy, from your perspective he would be centrist, since he was a National Socialist.
Not my point Bob.

My point is that you are so marginalised in your politics that you make most other far right or far left leaning people look centrist.

P.S. You really should look up "National Socialism". Then look up "Bolshevik" and "Menshevik" and understand the phrase "What's in a name?"...
 
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Doug S.

The protoplasm may be 70, but the spirit is 32!
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Or find ways of harnessing all of those fxrts, piles of shxt and process them into methane to power our vehicles !!!
You may be more on point than you realize with that comment, Domtoni!

Back in the late 1970's I worked for a builder during the summers. One summer we built a huge solar heated building in which hogs were going to be raised. As part of that construction project, "canals" were built over which slotted flooring was placed, and the hogs were to reside on those slotted floors. A pond was constructed outside with a plastic/fabric cover for this purpose:

There was a timed system that included a contstant service pump connected to a huge elevated tank outside. At the end of the specified time interval, the tank would dump at great volume the contents, which would wash over the slotted flooring and "flush" the feces/urine from the hogs down into the "canals", which would then carry the waste out to the pond. The waste material would create methane, which was captured by the cover, and a piping system was created to carry the methane gasses to heaters in the building, and the constant service pump would fill the huge outdoor tank for the next "flush". The combination of solar gain from roof panels and the methane-fired heaters would keep the hogs warm during the cold Kansas winters, making the project almost totally self-sufficient in power production...about the only electricity used was for lighting and to run the timing system and pumps.

There is no reason that the process could not be used with cattle (although, having worked on a cattle ranch for 9 summers during high school and college, I can see some issues), sheep, etc.

The issue, though, is that even if we do capture waste-material created methane and burn it in our GT40s, we still contribute to global warming by using the combustion process....and even if we go totally electric, the generation/creation of that electricity creates either nuclear byproducts or pollutants that cause atmospheric alterations that contribute to global warming.

The hog-shed was an interesting project, though, I must admit. I have no idea if it is still standing or operational, but would like to find out. It was a large-scale project, but IMHO the concept could be scaled down and used for individuals to help us reduce our fossil-fuel needs, even if we never get there for our automobiles.

Cheers from Doug!!
 
Back to the subject at hand.


"Climate policy has almost nothing to do anymore with environmental protection, says the German economist and IPCC official Ottmar Edenhofer. The next world climate summit in Cancun is actually an economy summit during which the distribution of the world’s resources will be negotiated."


That quote, and the entire interview, used to be available on the IPCC website. Even they must have realized how dumb it was to tip their hand on this subject, so it was killed. Best I can do right now is supply a link that posts the interview from 18 November 2010 13:16 Neue Zürcher Zeitung.

UN Global Warmers Admit ‘Climate Change’ About Wealth Redistribution; Invoke Demonic ‘Goddesses’ « Start Thinking Right

Here's a link to the original interview. Maybe there is a German member willing to translate it to anyone who might doubt the above link.

«Klimapolitik verteilt das Weltvermögen neu» (Politik, Schweiz, NZZ Online)
 
Not my point Bob.

My point is that you are so marginalised in your politics that you make most other far right or far left leaning people look centrist.
That was your attempt, but National Socialism is where the US is heading, if the Left prevails.
 
That was your attempt, but National Socialism is where the US is heading, if the Left prevails.
I've never heard something as boneheaded and illeducated as that statement. You really should look up "National Socialism" Bob. Really, you should. Do you not understand that "National Socialism" was a name made up to appease the masses, whilst Hitler installed his ruthless brand of "Socialism" on the people, to be ruled with an iron rod, removing most of the tenets that you hold dear.

Freedom of speech - GONE.
Independant thought - GONE.
Jews - GONE


I could go on, but you (should) get my point. National Socialism had nothing to do with the brand of Socialism that we have now. The two could not be further apart.

BTW Bob, as I have pointed out to you before, I am not a socialist, nor am I a liberal, but you consistently come across as the worst kind of conservative.
 
I've never heard something as boneheaded and illeducated as that statement. You really should look up "National Socialism" Bob. Really, you should. Do you not understand that "National Socialism" was a name made up to appease the masses, whilst Hitler installed his ruthless brand of "Socialism" on the people, to be ruled with an iron rod, removing most of the tenets that you hold dear.

Freedom of speech - GONE.
Independant thought - GONE.
Jews - GONE


I could go on, but you (should) get my point. National Socialism had nothing to do with the brand of Socialism that we have now. The two could not be further apart.

BTW Bob, as I have pointed out to you before, I am not a socialist, nor am I a liberal, but you consistently come across as the worst kind of conservative.
Exactly, when the concept of a government of and for the people becomes a government unaccountable to the people, we get the loss of our freedoms. Stand back, cool off and look at how the power of the Federal government has grown. Look at the massive bureaucracy, unelected and accountable to no one.


Exactly, when the concept of a government of and for the people becomes a government unaccountable to the people, we get the loss of our freedoms. Stand back, cool off and look at how the power of the Federal government has grown. Look at the massive bureaucracy, unelected and accountable to no one.
 
Back to the subject at hand.


"Climate policy has almost nothing to do anymore with environmental protection, says the German economist and IPCC official Ottmar Edenhofer. The next world climate summit in Cancun is actually an economy summit during which the distribution of the world’s resources will be negotiated."


That quote, and the entire interview, used to be available on the IPCC website. Even they must have realized how dumb it was to tip their hand on this subject, so it was killed. Best I can do right now is supply a link that posts the interview from 18 November 2010 13:16 Neue Zürcher Zeitung.

http://startthinkingright.wordpress.com/2010/12/07/un-global-warmers-admit-climate-change-about-wealth-redistribution-invoke-demonic-goddesses/

Here's a link to the original interview. Maybe there is a German member willing to translate it to anyone who might doubt the above link.

http://www.nzz.ch/nachrichten/politik/schweiz/klimapolitik_verteilt_das_weltvermoegen_neu_1.8373227.html
 

Jim Craik

Lifetime Supporter
The new Communist Manifesto! Thanks for sharing.
Bob, someone disagrees with your absurd view on the climate and your retort is to call it "The new Communist Manifesto".

You have no idea what is going on, no idea how to debate and no idea that virtually no one agrees with your views. please go away!
 
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