"Get out of here, you low life scum!"

Doug S.

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Well, I'm a bit fuzzy on the details, but not on the quote with which I have titled this thread.

Apparently there was some sort of legislative event in which Henry Kissinger was involved, as an honoree (I think), and some protesters took that opportunity to present their views that Kissinger should be put on trial for....well, I think it has something to do with his national origin, that's part of the issue on which I'm unclear.

Anyway, Senator John McCain, who may have been the chairperson for the event, took exception with the actions of the protesters and called capitol police in to remove them. As the police were escorting the protesters out, he said "Get out of here, you low life scum!".

So, that brings up a whole multitude of questions. Our legal framework as a nation provides constituents the opportunity to address their duly elected representatives. It does not seem to limit the nature of the address. My question is why did McCain decide he had to insult the protesters when they were already being escorted out of chambers?

Was it because the protesters had an opinion that was different from his?

Was it because he took exception to the choice of venue in which the protesters expressed their opinions (keep in mind Kissinger was present at the event, so to me it seems a rare opportunity to challenge the subject of the protest and therefore an appropriate choice).

Was it because he disliked what the posters the protesters were holding had to say about Kissinger?

Was it because he had repeatedly told the protesters to calm down and they didn't; in fact, every time he told them to calm down they brought forth their challenges again.

Whatever the reason was, it seems to me that the comment by McCain was uncalled for, abusive, and inappropriate. If one wants to defend McCain on the basis of free speech, one must also defend the protesters on the same basis. This is the kind of comment that can come back to haunt a politician, much like Romney's comment about the "5%".

What say you all? Was McCain out of line? Did the comment really serve a purpose other than to insult the party who seemed to be most vociferous in his protests?

Looking forward to hearing what y'all have to say about this issue.

Cheers!

Doug
 
Which time did you reference they were escorted out of chambers? 1st or 2nd.

I think he got upset, when they physically surround and attacked a 91 year old crippled, fail old man who was incapable to move away from the demonstrators. Code PINK is on the fringe of civil protest. Like they say in Asheville (Freak City USA)..Edgy. There are better ways to make your points about policy from 40 plus years ago.
 

Randy V

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It's a good thing that we are all so perfect and have never lost it at an inopertune time...
I can take hecklers 7x24x365 and they never get to me....
You too?
 

Doug S.

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Thanks, guys! I understand the desire to protect Kissinger, did the protesters physically assault him or were they just jockeying for a position from which Kissinger could see their signs?

I am a huge fan of Henry Kissinger...also a huge fan of free speech. If they physically assaulted Kissinger, then I do not think McCain was out of line with his comment and in fact believe the Capitol police should charge them with assault. The old phrase "Your right to free speech ends where my nose begins!" explains my attitude about that.

Quite frankly, I am very surprised at McCain's insult...he seems to maintain a cool head most of the time and insults like this one are sort of uncharacteristic.

Cheers!!

Doug
 

Larry L.

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Looking forward to hearing what y'all have to say about this issue.

I'd say the ole boy had finally gotten to the point where he was sick and tired of having to put up with that kinda crap.




Our legal framework as a nation provides constituents the opportunity to address their duly elected representatives.

Whaaaat? 'You call what those clowns were doing "(addressing) their duly elected representatives"? SERIOUSLY?!

Demonstrators may have the right to free speech and the right to "address" their reps alright, but they DO NOT have the right to use it in a manner that interfers with/disrupts/shuts down legit meetings, etc. Neither do they "have the right" to do something like laying down in the middle of streets and highways blocking traffic to 'get their point across'. When they pull crap like that they're trampling on the rights of others and should be dealt with accordingly.

That said, I KNEW the instant those words left McCain's mouth that the 'tolerant' left's HYPOCRITICAL speech/p.c. police would be ALLLLLLL OVER IT like green on grass. And judging by the way McCain squirmed in his chair immediatly afterward, I'm sure he did, too.

Would I have said what McCain said? Nope. Not in a public meeting such as that. 'Decorum' is supposed to be a 'given' in that situation. 'Wouldn't have wanted to give those loons the satisfaction - nor give the left's "talking heads" the political ammo. But, like millions of others in this country, I'd darned sure have been thinking it.
 

Larry L.

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...now...here's something 'weird' (spooky?)!

Almost immediatey following my "pro McCain(?)" post on this forum...I received a McCain 'News letter'!!! :shocked::shocked::shocked:


Whut th' ................????????????
 

Randy V

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Think "Hanoi Hilton", Doc... :undecided:

Indeed....

Regardless of his sphere of political influence, this man is a bonafide hero in my book... From someone whose spent time in country, it was no picnic... :uneasy:
This man deserves our respect and maybe just a tad more tolerance...
 
Thanks, guys! I understand the desire to protect Kissinger, did the protesters physically assault him or were they just jockeying for a position from which Kissinger could see their signs?

I am a huge fan of Henry Kissinger...also a huge fan of free speech. If they physically assaulted Kissinger, then I do not think McCain was out of line with his comment and in fact believe the Capitol police should charge them with assault. The old phrase "Your right to free speech ends where my nose begins!" explains my attitude about that.

Quite frankly, I am very surprised at McCain's insult...he seems to maintain a cool head most of the time and insults like this one are sort of uncharacteristic.

Cheers!!

Doug

The protest was put on by CodePink, an anti war group. They were harassing a 91 year old man. Embarrassing.
 
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