Original GT40 Steering Wheels

Does anyone know whether original GT40 steering wheels differed between road and race cars? I ask, because to my knowledge, original wheels were dished and had round holes in the spokes. My wheel, off GT40P/1026 is thus. The only reason I enquire is to clarify whether road GT40s had tear dropped holes, as I do not believe they had and that all original cars had dished, not flat wheels. I understand from talking to Andy at GT40 Gold Parts - Welcome To GT40 Gold Parts that even the Motolita ones are not quite correct. Does anyone have a diffinitive answer with irrefutable evidence, as I always strive to prove beyond reasonable doubt that all the parts on my car "P/1042" are 100% period original? Thanks in advance... Andrew
 

Brian Stewart
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Hi Andrew. According to the period photos in "GT40 Archive" by Winer and Wyss, page 33 shows a road car with flat wheel and tear drop holes, page 40 has Noel Edmonds road car with a flat wheel with no holes at all, page 55 shows the GT X-1 with a flat wheel with teardrop holes, page 98, a MKIV with a similar wheel to the Edmonds car, and a MKIII with the Edmonds wheel on p101. In "The Ford That Beat Ferrari", all pictures of the early cars show flat wheels with tear drop holes. I'll continue looking....
 

Brian Stewart
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Having leafed through most of my books the only photos of wheels I have found all show flat wheels. Most road cars and some MKIIIs seem to have no holes and race cars seem to have tear drop holes, although there appear to be at least three or four different styles. On some the holes go almost to the rim, on others only a little over half way out. Some have the rim leather confined to the rim alone, on ones with shorter holes the leather goes part way down the spoke and on some it actually encroaches on the hole. There is another one with tear drop holes but with the edges of the holes and edges of the spokes rounded rather than moderately sharp. I have not found a photo of a dished wheel at all and the only wheel with round holes (four per spoke) is on a cutaway drawing of one of the very early prototypes, but photos of 101 show it with a flat wheel with long tear drops. Not much help sorry Andrew.
 

Charlie Farley

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Ford that beat Ferrari page 30
Dished steeringwheel with straight slots in spokes.
Although the leather spats to the spokes are not on that example.
Page 34, another example of a dished wheel, with straight slots.
Page 37 ditto, but with spats, ditto page 44.
Notice, they all had very thin rims.
Perhaps they shopped at more places than just Halfords.
 
I believe that the production cars (as opposed to the prototypes) all had flat wheels as supplied at the factory, obviously these were changed to suit individual requirements, Ickx being the obvious example. The genuine wheel that I have is flat without holes.

Regards,


Graham.
 
For what it's worth -The J W Engineering Illustrated Parts Book shows a flat wheel, no holes with leather wrapped to just over the start of the spokes.
 
OK. so you lot are more on the ball than I. I was confusing wheels with one on a Testa Rossa I owned. Here's a photo of me collecting my GT40 wheel from Mathwall engineering.. Andrew
 

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Here is the steering wheel from my buddy's P1083. I can't confirm if it is actually the original wheel, but it is what is on the car now. I don't know why it would have been changed. It evidently used to have buttons for radio or something.

-Bob Woods
 

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Brian Stewart
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Ford that beat Ferrari page 30
Dished steeringwheel with straight slots in spokes.
Although the leather spats to the spokes are not on that example.
Page 34, another example of a dished wheel, with straight slots.
Page 37 ditto, but with spats, ditto page 44.
Notice, they all had very thin rims.
Perhaps they shopped at more places than just Halfords.

Fair comments Andrew. I guess I was looking for a bit more dish than those ones.
 
Andrew on page 176 of Ronnie Spains book there is a MKI P/1021 with ribs rather than holes in the steering wheel this is a racecar Two other examples are the prototype road car P/1013 and the M3/1102 both with no holes or ribs.
Regards Allan
 

Rick Muck- Mark IV

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Here is the steering wheel from my buddy's P1083. I can't confirm if it is actually the original wheel, but it is what is on the car now. I don't know why it would have been changed. It evidently used to have buttons for radio or something.

-Bob Woods

It is a later addition, no GTs came with Alcantara wheels.
 

Ian Anderson

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It is a later addition, no GTs came with Alcantara wheels.

That means there is another original steering wheel out there ----- around which another original will be built :laugh: :laugh:

So now of the original 103 built now only 372.6 originals exist ?

Ian
 
With the race cars and the changes they all had there can be many original pieces depending on the year. So to me it's very confusing. I am glad in a way I know mine is not ( real) so I can change small things without affecting the feel of aGT40 if that makes sense.
 
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