Mark V value - Page 2

Rick Muck- Mark IV · 03-29-05, 09:10 PM

At least one MK V was sold as a "Kit"...this was a car that went to Bill Jacobs (I seem to remember, but I could be wrong about the name) in Chicago. This was the chassis that was displayed at the SAAC meet in Dearborn in 1983. This is where I first met Peter Thorp (as well as Brain Angliss).

All of the cars that originally came to the USA were sold as rollers without engine. P1116 came in with the ZF in place (not really kosher but the feds never noticed!). I am positive about this as I picked it up at Pearson Airport in Toronto and trailered it to Buffalo, later on to Detroit for the engine installation.

I would agree that the MK V "is" a GT40 although not an original "FAV" GT.

As to the Holman-Moody chassis plate issue....FAV built the car, HM assigned its' own additional chassis plate, much as Alan Mann did. By the reasoning of some that HM was the "manufacturer", I could take 1075 and screw on my own "Craftsman Engineering" plate and I would have "built" 1075!

The story that Ford did not want a Ford VIN on cars to eliminate liabilty does not hold water...HM added the plates to identify the cars they worked on or to promote HM, not to "imdemnify" FoMoCo! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]

If Ford did not want the cars VIN'ed as Fords, they would not have done so on over 75 GTs.....

Rick [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

rsinor · 03-30-05, 08:14 AM

Rick,

All of the MK V's that originally came to the USA were not rollers without engine. P1090, P1091, P1094, P1096 and P1098 were all built with motors P1096 & 1098 the 7th & 9th cars? came to the US with motors as new cars. P1093 was apparently shipped as a kit, I suspect that is the chassis you were mentioning because it was in 1983. I have been told that P1099 & P1100 were the lightweight (aluminum tub cars.)I do not know anything about the later series of cars P1115 and up.

Roy

hipperson · 04-01-05, 11:02 AM

The Maxted-Page car is 1115 and the asking price is £195,000 GBP.The car is in fine fettle and I don't think overpriced. I took a photo this week but for some reason cannot upload.I will get a friend to do so tonight.You may notice something pleasant lurking in the background.

Tim Kay · 04-01-05, 11:58 AM

Roy,

FWIW, here is a link to Safir P/1139 that did not sell on E-bay recently.

MK -IV J6 · 04-01-05, 01:28 PM

No bids at 200K. This car has been for sale for a long time.

jimbo · 04-01-05, 01:39 PM

Not the best color on 1139, is it....and 195K sterling for the other one? right, I wish....I don't think they are worth that, I just wish they were. Roy, let us know how you like yours and what it's like. I'm jealous. This is starting to be GT40 weather, and mine is not up on it's feet yet. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Piperp2 · 04-03-05, 01:36 PM

Picture posted on behalf of Michael Hipperson

Malcolm · 04-04-05, 06:53 AM

So could a MkV race as being a legit GT40, continuation car under the FIA new rules regarding nut and bolt faithful replica's?

Ron Earp · 04-04-05, 07:05 AM

If they are continuation chassis, similar to what Shelby is doing with the 4XXX series of Cobras, then they clearly are different and certainly can't be classed as "original" GT40s I don't think.

Malcolm has a good question on the racing, and Jim as one as well on the registering. I'd bet a Ben Franklin that in North Carolina, which, by the way is really trying to act like a Big Government is Best state with DMV laws, would register one as a self-built or kit car. If it doesn't pop up on the screen with a major manufactuer, Safir won't work and Ford won't take in the system, you'd have to go the self-built route. H&M is here in NC and I wonder how their MKIIs would fare in the DMW system? I'd bet as a kit car. Lynn how is that going with yours?