GT40s.com
MK-I  MK-II  MK-III  MK-IV  GULF  MIRAGE  J-CAR  LOLA
GT40s.com
Home Forum Gallery Member Rides Support GT40s.com  
Register FAQ Members List Advertisers Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Go Back   GT40s.com > GT40 Technical Forums > GT40 Tech - Engines/Induction/Exhaust

Notices

GT40 Tech - Engines/Induction/Exhaust Motors and engine related - right here!

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-04-06, 06:27 PM   #1 (permalink)
p thompson's Avatar
p thompson
Administrator
United Kingdom
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Milland, West S
GT40: None
Posts: 2,261
Rep Power: 37 p thompson has a brilliant futurep thompson has a brilliant futurep thompson has a brilliant futurep thompson has a brilliant futurep thompson has a brilliant future
302 Drawing ? w h y?

Hi all -

I'm looking to 'paper fit' a few items around a 302 motor at the moment and whilst I have drawings of the items concerned, I don't have one of a 302 block, with or without manifold....

Has anyone out there got one they could 'share'? or know where I might obtain one?

.dwg or .pdf preferred but any format or assistance would be greatfully accepted.

thanks..
__________________
regards
Paul Thompson
-----------------------------------------
Too Many Hobbies - Too Little Time
p thompson is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 12-04-06, 06:49 PM   #2 (permalink)
Paul Bearman
4 Tenths
United Kingdom
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: UK, Kent
GT40: Ex GTD40 owner,
Posts: 452
Rep Power: 12 Paul Bearman is on a distinguished road
Re: 302 Drawing ? w h y?

Hi Paul,
I have a 3D enigine I drew in AutoCAD Inventor I can let you have in .ipt format or if you can wait a few days I'll convert it into 2D dwg for email or I can post. If dwg then what version do you have as I use 2006 which isn;t compatible with earlier versions.
All I ask is that you tell me how I can view pictures on this Forum!!!!!!!!! I've tried everything I know but no joy.
Paul Bearman is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 12-04-06, 08:54 PM   #3 (permalink)
CCX33911
10 tenths
United States
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
GT40: Virginia
Posts: 1,222
Rep Power: 20 CCX33911 is on a distinguished road
Re: 302 Drawing ? w h y?

Hi Paul. I would like to have the inventor file. Try sending it to my e-mail:
cavgt40@cox.net

Thanks,
Gary
__________________
Thanks
Gary

CCX33911 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 12-05-06, 07:05 AM   #4 (permalink)
otto69
A Tenth
Australia
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: NT Australia
GT40: RF40 # 66
Posts: 156
Rep Power: 9 otto69 has a spectacular aura about
Re: 302 Drawing ? w h y?

Hi Paul
I don’t have a scanner, but if you find a copy of “Building Ford short-track power” an SA Design book # SA63. It has 7 pages of 351 Windsor drawings ( apart from deck heights, most dimensions should be similar ).
“Ford high performance” catalogue # M-1833-A1 also has 302 & 351 drawings (its an old book though)
Hope this helps

Clayton
otto69 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 12-05-06, 09:28 AM   #5 (permalink)
ahirsbrunner's Avatar
ahirsbrunner
Administrator
United States
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Chicago, IL USA
GT40: RCR-40 #24
Posts: 478
Rep Power: 8 ahirsbrunner has disabled reputation
Re: 302 Drawing ? w h y?

Here's another alternative. Not paper, but foam. I just bought one even though I do have a block etc.

P-Ayr Products Replica Long Block Engines: PYP-3020 - summitracing.com

Regards,

Al
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	pyp-3020_w.jpg
Views:	729
Size:	23.8 KB
ID:	16684  

Last edited by ahirsbrunner; 12-05-06 at 08:04 PM.
ahirsbrunner is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 12-05-06, 12:16 PM   #6 (permalink)
Brian Kissel
Lifetime Premier Supporter
United States
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Sheridan, Michigan USA
Posts: 259
Rep Power: 9 Brian Kissel is on a distinguished road
Thumbs down Re: 302 Drawing ? w h y?

Before you get to excited do a search on this forum about P-ayr. There are several people that have had trouble with these blocks, as far as being accurate.
Regards Brian
__________________
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space !!!!
Brian Kissel is online now  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 12-05-06, 08:05 PM   #7 (permalink)
ahirsbrunner's Avatar
ahirsbrunner
Administrator
United States
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Chicago, IL USA
GT40: RCR-40 #24
Posts: 478
Rep Power: 8 ahirsbrunner has disabled reputation
Re: 302 Drawing ? w h y?

Yep, not perfect, but way more accurate than me + blueprints + ruler
ahirsbrunner is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 12-05-06, 08:38 PM   #8 (permalink)
p thompson's Avatar
p thompson
Administrator
United Kingdom
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Milland, West S
GT40: None
Posts: 2,261
Rep Power: 37 p thompson has a brilliant futurep thompson has a brilliant futurep thompson has a brilliant futurep thompson has a brilliant futurep thompson has a brilliant future
Re: 302 Drawing ? w h y?

Thanks Guys - Paul 'n' all....

The drawing file you have Paul would be most appreciated and I'll certainly give your 'viewing issue' some further thought, although I did follow the previous thread about the problem and could not fathom why you had issues at the time.... If I have a sudden idea, I'll post again....

I also have some ford manuals which as suggested, might prove the ticket and make life easier....
__________________
regards
Paul Thompson
-----------------------------------------
Too Many Hobbies - Too Little Time
p thompson is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 12-06-06, 03:42 PM   #9 (permalink)
SpeedQuest
Rookie
United States
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: US - Midwest
GT40: My Design Chassis - Design Phase
Posts: 10
Rep Power: 3 SpeedQuest is on a distinguished road
Re: 302 Drawing ? w h y?

Anyone in the U.S. have one of these replica 302 engines you want to sell?
__________________
________________________________
My Design GT40 Chassis - Design Phase
Lotus Esprit
Hummer H3
D-Sports Racer Racecar
SpeedQuest is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 12-21-06, 10:42 AM   #10 (permalink)
Brandon Miller
United States
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 1
Rep Power: 3 Brandon Miller is on a distinguished road
Re: 302 Drawing ? w h y?

I am new to the site and am also looking for technical drawings on the 302 block. Paul, could you send me what you have also? marbles@blomand.net
Brandon Miller is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 12-27-06, 08:17 AM   #11 (permalink)
Ron Earp's Avatar
Ron Earp
Retiree
United States
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: NC, USA
Posts: 4,082
Rep Power: 58 Ron Earp has disabled reputation
Re: 302 Drawing ? w h y?

Al confirmed what I'd heard from another builder - those replica blocks hold up to some work in the sense you can bolt stuff to them like headers and what not and they don't fall apart of the bolt holes pull out. Cool toy that could be a neat table when one was done with it!
__________________
Ron Earp
Enjoy the forum? Support GT40s.com
Ron Earp is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 12-27-06, 03:32 PM   #12 (permalink)
Malcolm's Avatar
Malcolm
Gold Supporter
United Kingdom
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Surrey, UK
GT40: GTD
Posts: 1,606
Rep Power: 31 Malcolm has a brilliant futureMalcolm has a brilliant futureMalcolm has a brilliant futureMalcolm has a brilliant futureMalcolm has a brilliant future
Re: 302 Drawing ? w h y?

It ain't paper, but I have an old 302 block lying around here if you want to borrow it. Wendy might appreciate one less peice of garden architecture for a time! Also got empty gear box casing if of any use.
__________________
Malcolm
GTD40, Mazda MAX5 MX5, Porsche 996 C4S
Lotus 51c for sale
Malcolm is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-06, 02:09 AM   #13 (permalink)
CliffBeer's Avatar
CliffBeer
CURRENTLY BANNED
United States
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Seattle, Washington
GT40: CAV mono
Posts: 349
Rep Power: 0 CliffBeer can only hope to improve
Re: 302 Drawing ? w h y?

Now that's a light weight engine - should take another 200lbs out of the car. Makes the aluminum block SBF look like a solid lump of lead in comparison. Now, I wonder how the foam will hold up to the under hood temps.......?? And, might be tough to get a good grounding for a spark plug!
CliffBeer is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-06, 11:51 AM   #14 (permalink)
p thompson's Avatar
p thompson
Administrator
United Kingdom
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Milland, West S
GT40: None
Posts: 2,261
Rep Power: 37 p thompson has a brilliant futurep thompson has a brilliant futurep thompson has a brilliant futurep thompson has a brilliant futurep thompson has a brilliant future
Re: 302 Drawing ? w h y?

Thanks for the offer Malc - but I have a car here at presesnt and am mocking the required items in card from drawings to 'trial fit' - if feasible, I'll order the bits, if not, I won't....

The motor is coming out for a full rebuild too so I need to trial fit the proposed bits before removing it..
__________________
regards
Paul Thompson
-----------------------------------------
Too Many Hobbies - Too Little Time
p thompson is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-06, 01:26 PM   #15 (permalink)
ahirsbrunner's Avatar
ahirsbrunner
Administrator
United States
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Chicago, IL USA
GT40: RCR-40 #24
Posts: 478
Rep Power: 8 ahirsbrunner has disabled reputation
Thumbs up Re: 302 Drawing ? w h y?

Like Ron mentioned, I bolted up my headers thinking I was going to have to be very gentle with the mockup block. That worry lasted about 2 minutes and I was soon tapping on the collectors with a rubber mallet! The only reason you see a wood block between the transaxle and the exhaust is to keep the engine from tipping back as it was not bolted to the chassis.

Regards,

Al
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Mockup_O1E_Basic_Rear_View.jpg
Views:	304
Size:	115.7 KB
ID:	16973  
ahirsbrunner is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-07, 06:38 PM   #16 (permalink)
acedriver
United States
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 1
Rep Power: 2 acedriver is on a distinguished road
Re: 302 Drawing ? w h y?

Hi Paul,

New to the forum and was searching for just this type of stuff (engines and such). I too wouldn't mind if you could send along the inventor file of your 302. Address is below. Thanks. Total off of GT-40 topics but would anyone be interested in a Solidworks part (sldprt) of a manufacturers rim off of the Audi R8 from a couple of years ago? This just happens to be the rear (haven't done the front just yet). If so just email or post.

Cheers,

Jeff

jdnagle@insightbb.com
acedriver is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

 
Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Wanted bellhousing Renault to 302 markal GT40 Wanted - Parts or Services Needed 3 12-06-06 04:48 AM
302 exhaust system wanted in Oz. burns 01 GT40 Wanted - Parts or Services Needed 2 11-23-06 01:35 PM
New Boss 302 crate engine and block Mark Worthington GT40 Tech - Engines/Induction/Exhaust 6 11-09-06 03:47 PM
Un1 To 302 adaptorplate cossieblauw GT40 Tech - Powertrain/Transaxles 2 11-07-06 02:32 PM
A drawing of your own GT40? simonjrwinter All GT40 5 09-28-03 06:59 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:02 AM.