MK-I MK-II MK-III MK-IV GULF MIRAGE J-CAR LOLA
| GT40 Tech - Fueling and Electrics Petrol and Electrons. |
01-07-08, 09:11 AM
|
#1 (permalink)
| | simonjrwinter serial GT40 owner
Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Essex, UK GT40: GTD
Posts: 1,757
Rep Power: 24  | GTD wiring loom. The GTD wiring loom I have, is from the "GTD supercars" days and differs from the looms in my other cars by being made of much thinner wire. I am missing the front (clip) loom which feeds the headlights/sidelight/indicators. I personally wouldn't feel right putting the headlight wattage through wires as thin as this, so am planning on using relays to bring power to the headlights via a more substantial wire. Has anybody used these very thin wires for powering their headlights?
Simon
__________________ GTD with Southern GT rear end. Lowered engine and gearbox. 302, R21T gearbox with LSD. |
| |
01-07-08, 09:39 AM
|
#2 (permalink)
| | MReid 4 Tenths
Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Connecticut GT40: RCR Mk1
Posts: 432
Rep Power: 6  | Re: GTD wiring loom. Simon, what is the gauge of the wire? I've noticed recently on several new harnesses from aftermarket suppliers like Painless and Ron Francis that the wire with insulation looks smaller, but the actual wire gauge is the same. For a halogen headlight, I wouldn't use anything less than 14 gauge (US gauge, not sure how that translates in the UK).
__________________ Have fun with your build! - Mark FFR Daytona Coupe RCR Gt40 Mk1 in the garage, and underway! |
| |
01-07-08, 11:13 AM
|
#3 (permalink)
| | Malcolm Gold Supporter
Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Surrey, UK GT40: GTD
Posts: 1,490
| Re: GTD wiring loom. Simon
I run the standard GTD headlight loom and have done so without any issues although after 17 years I did get Paul Thompson to revamp all the connections in the head light pods.
Slightly diverting this thread but it may be of interest to you, I am planning to buy ten sets of HID lights (H4) and then to offer some to anyone interested. I need ten sets to get the lumens I want and at the price I want. These don't overload the wiring system and arguably reduce loadings as less wattage required. This may help your concerns.
__________________ Malcolm
GTD40, Prosport 3000 Spyder, Lotus 51c, Mazda MAX5 MX5 (Spec Miata) and Porsche 996 C4S |
| |
01-07-08, 12:02 PM
|
#4 (permalink)
| | huntsen 5 Tenths
Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: High Wycombe, U GT40: Factory-built G
Posts: 512
Rep Power: 11  | Re: GTD wiring loom. Quote:
Originally Posted by Malcolm Simon
I am planning to buy ten sets of HID lights (H4) and then to offer some to anyone interested. I need ten sets to get the lumens I want and at the price I want. These don't overload the wiring system and arguably reduce loadings as less wattage required. This may help your concerns. | Malcolm,
HID sounds interesting, then we can blind the buggers back!
Presumably they would use the existing light units, with the associated electronics attached to the inside of the clip behind the access panel?
$64,000 question - cost?
Happy New Year,
Tony |
| |
01-07-08, 02:14 PM
|
#5 (permalink)
| | brettmcc 10 tenths
Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Essex, UK GT40: RSGTD
Posts: 1,283
Rep Power: 19  | Re: GTD wiring loom. Tony,
Iguess Malc has got a good price, but as a guide... h-i-d.co.uk do a conversion for road and ones for racing. The H4 conversion is £385inc VAT; the racing version is £285 inc VAT.
Brett |
| |
01-07-08, 03:42 PM
|
#6 (permalink)
| | jerry A Tenth
Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Someret,England GT40: Roaring Forties
Posts: 122
Rep Power: 6  | Re: GTD wiring loom. Hi,
Got a the HID H4 conversion kit from Exeter Kit Car show(£120), converted the Lucas lamps to H4 (With a small file), and fitted them to the 40, putting all the electrics in the light pod. The difference is amazing. Well worth the effort.
If your headlamp covers are perspex then a HID light will make them go cloudy though, due to the strong UV light.
Jerry
__________________ RF#99
Freestyle Buggy
Brat |
| |
01-08-08, 03:00 AM
|
#7 (permalink)
| | brettmcc 10 tenths
Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Essex, UK GT40: RSGTD
Posts: 1,283
Rep Power: 19  | Re: GTD wiring loom. Jerry did you do that after SVA? The reason I ask is, that under homologation laws HID lamps have to be self-levelling (probably in the kit) and come with headlight washers (which I don't think would be in the kit). Very good price though, I reckon I'll go for that post SVA!
Brett |
| |
01-08-08, 04:15 AM
|
#8 (permalink)
| | CraigB Bronze Supporter
Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Lancs., UK GT40: MDA Mk.II
Posts: 141
Rep Power: 4  | Re: GTD wiring loom. I just got an adaptor from Goffy's bulbs in the UK http://www.norbsa02.freeuk.com/goffybulbs.htm
He does a resin adaptor that lets a P43t H4 (normal H4 bulb) to be fitted into an older P45t headlamp. At £3.50 per side I decided to risk a set  (listed in red toward the bottom of the page I think) 
__________________ Cheers
Craig
MDA Mk.II with 452ci FE and 930 transaxle in build
Build site at www.MDAmk2.com |
| |
01-08-08, 04:39 AM
|
#9 (permalink)
| | Malcolm Gold Supporter
Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Surrey, UK GT40: GTD
Posts: 1,490
| Re: GTD wiring loom. Last set I bought was about £100. I am aiming to be as close to this price as I can. Let me start a separate thread for this so people can discuss away from Simons thread.
__________________ Malcolm
GTD40, Prosport 3000 Spyder, Lotus 51c, Mazda MAX5 MX5 (Spec Miata) and Porsche 996 C4S |
| |
01-08-08, 09:55 AM
|
#10 (permalink)
| | RichardH A Tenth
Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Basyngstoches, Hampshire, UK GT40: GTD+
Posts: 188
Rep Power: 5  | Re: GTD wiring loom. Quote:
Originally Posted by CraigB I just got an adaptor from Goffy's bulbs in the UK http://www.norbsa02.freeuk.com/goffybulbs.htm
He does a resin adaptor that lets a P43t H4 (normal H4 bulb) to be fitted into an older P45t headlamp. At £3.50 per side I decided to risk a set  (listed in red toward the bottom of the page I think) | I have those in mine - they work a treat. Still very little visibility in dipped beam, but I think that is a physical constraint of the recessed headlights, the angle of "dipping" and the close proximity to ground. But main beam seem to be fine. I think in conjunction with driving lamps to "extend" the dipped beam distance - should be fine.
__________________ RS built GTD+
Engineering Manager, trying desperately to find out how these things work!
Last edited by RichardH; 01-08-08 at 10:02 AM.
|
| |
01-08-08, 10:09 PM
|
#11 (permalink)
| | 10 tenths
Join Date: Jun 2002 GT40: San Francisco Bay Area California USA
Posts: 1,843
Rep Power: 25  | Re: GTD wiring loom. I am using these in my car. 6255BAHP - W-6255BAHP
They work good and they are very cheap. Just pop them in. No conversion, no nothin. Make sure you order the minimum order. I think it was 25 dollars US last time. This way you can really save some bucks on shipping and handling. |
| | |
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) | | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | |
Posting Rules
| You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is On | | |
All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:52 PM.
|