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Old 05-30-08, 10:03 AM   #1 (permalink)
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You tell me ?

Morris & Welford—International Specialist Historic Car Consultants&Brokers are advertising a newly built continuation car with FIA papers for UKŁ 250 000 / USD 500 000 - does anyone know any more about it ?
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Old 05-30-08, 11:40 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I wonder if that's one of the shelby GT40's that i've heard about.... mind you if it was i'd expect the seller to be shouting the fact that it's a "shelby" from the roof tops.
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Old 05-30-08, 02:46 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Could this be one of the Gelscoe cars?
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Old 05-30-08, 07:23 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Morris & Welford—International Specialist Historic Car Consultants&Brokers are advertising a newly built continuation car with FIA papers for UKŁ 250 000 / USD 500 000 - does anyone know any more about it ?
1965 car. Right....
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Old 05-31-08, 08:10 PM   #5 (permalink)
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1965 car. Right....
It's called "truth in advertising". A brand new 1965 "CONTINUATION"
give me a break.
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Old 06-01-08, 05:35 AM   #6 (permalink)
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It's called "truth in advertising". A brand new 1965 "CONTINUATION"
give me a break.
But if you don't click on the details it's listed as a 1965 FIA GT40. Picky perhaps but it's designed to draw you in further for sure.

You can have your break now.
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Old 06-02-08, 01:41 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Ranks right up there with "genuine artifical leather and authentic replica".
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Old 06-05-08, 01:19 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I'll add to the original question of "who made it ?" - "What should it sell for?" The car is very well done and may eventually receive FIA papers. As presented the car is eligible for an HTP in the sellers opinion. Hmmmm...
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Old 06-05-08, 02:30 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Hello all, I'm new here. I've been reading the posts for several months now. I've decided to stick my "toes in the water". As for the above, it my very well be an overpriced replica, I like 40 Bud's definition/comment "genuine artifical leather and authentic replica". I do have to say after reviewing the photos, it is rather well done in the details. Just my 2 cents ~Earl
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Old 06-05-08, 04:31 PM   #10 (permalink)
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A quick look at the switches on the dash tells me all I need to know...
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Old 06-25-08, 04:40 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Could this be one of the Gelscoe cars?
Yes, you're quite right, it's a Gelscoe car, and it already has its HTP. See New Ford GT40 for sale
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Old 07-01-08, 10:43 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Hi John the tail and single rear lights give the game away!!! I just hope I do not have to pay top dollar to watch it race!!! When its just a copy? No matter how well made!
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Old 01-02-09, 06:24 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Hi all.... its not a Gelscoe Car, it has a Gelscoe Chassis. The car was built by Gerry Wainright- NOT GELSCOE MOTORSPORT. The Chassis was supplied by Gelscoe as a replacement for 1001 but was never used as Alan LLoyd stopped racing due to illness. The car does not have FIA Papers as it has no Gelscoe number on the Chassis. Gelscoe has refused the car a number as it was a replacement Chassis not a complete car when it left the Factory. Hope that sets the record straight.
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Old 01-03-09, 02:34 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Any reference to "GT40" on the sill stripes or steering wheel boss is conspicuously absent....
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Old 01-03-09, 09:50 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Re: You tell me ?

It is obviously a replica, like all the others, if it was built in 2007. It looks very well done, except for details like the switches, but not worth $500,000 IMO. It is interesting that it might never get FIA papers because of the lack of a chassis number - that is good news as when we watch Classic racing we assume the competing cars are the genuine article, not imposters like some of the "continuation" models.

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Old 01-03-09, 11:23 AM   #16 (permalink)
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If you want to know what real and not so real GT40's are on the market I suggest you check: Classic Driver - HOME
Today they list under GT40 a total of 13 cars:
the real one's:
1059 at 1,3M
1101 ??
AM/2 the real deal
1077 ??
The not so real:
1039 ex P Bos TdF ext went through the magic hands of Sborro
1085A Sbarro for 235K
And also:
MkIV for 168K on photo looks ok but at that price must be J13?
MKV Safir for 168K
CAV for 62K
etc?.

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Old 01-04-09, 07:29 AM   #17 (permalink)
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The problem with the HTP system is that in fact a complete new car can be allowed to race against originals. It is up to the organisers of events to refuse replica's (any continuation car on a new chassis is a replica).
I will not enter events with my original GT40 if I have to race against a brand new kitcar.
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