F1 is boring me to death!!!! - Page 18

DavidTC · 03-12-06, 05:42 AM

David
I would not disagree on the likely re-fueling strategies. Thanks for the inside track on the wind conditions; the red cars looked to be well sorted to gain competitive advantage from the starnge aero conditions. What news on the sand ?.
David

David Morton · 03-12-06, 09:34 AM

Re: F1 is boring me to death!!!!
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DavidTC · 03-12-06, 10:57 AM

Agreed
It is shaping up to be a very competitive season.Excellent Renault teamwork to get Fernando out ahead of Michael.
Nice to see the young Rosberg make such an outstanding showing; a chip off the old block, his dad was a great racer.
David

David Morton · 03-12-06, 11:27 AM

Pat Symonds - Master Tactician at work.
Fisichella - ECU (engine map problem) and Hydraulic pump failure, but the engine will probably still be good for Sepang.

Ken Mason · 03-13-06, 06:10 AM

I'd watched young Rosberg in GP2 and he's a real racer like his Dad - good at overtaking as she showed during Sunday's Grand Prix. He wasn't far behind Webber despite having to come in for a new nose cone etc.
I remember his dad Keke setting the first ever 150 mph lap of Silverstone in a Williams. At that time Woodcote was a fast sweep which most people treated with a confidence lift going in. Keke went through flat and later revealed one of his rear tyes had started deflating half way round the lap! Big balls....

Pete. · 03-13-06, 06:45 AM

Yep. I bet Dad is proud. A terrific race. Maybe we should change the name of this thread to F1 could really be exciting. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/banana.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/banana.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/banana.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beerchug.gif[/img]

DavidTC · 03-13-06, 03:28 PM

Funny how we all have different memories of different drivers at different races.For me the greatest lap ever was the opening lap of the 1993 Donnington European GP when in virtually zero visability in pouring rain Senna stormed past Prost,Hill and Shumacher.We tend to remember all condition racers like Mansell,Shumacher and Senna rather than the technical perfectionists like Prost who never really raced in wet conditions (bit like the oval racers really !)
Nigel Mansells first GP win at Brands Hatch in 85 also sticks in the mind as does Rosbergs storming drive in the same race to take the final podium position.
Others will have different thoughts no doubt.
David

Pat Buckley · 03-14-06, 10:17 AM

Rosberg did the same thing at Laguna Seca in a Can Am car - 1978 - on the original track turns 1 and 2 were sweepers that required a lift - until Keke did them flat out....on his second lap through he lost it and totalled the car.

David Tickle · 03-14-06, 10:18 AM

Yes, I remember the Senna and Mansell races too. In fact, when Mansell won, the FIA had recently prohibited laps of honour at the end of the race. Unfortunately, Mansells car stopped (broken down he said!) just after the start/finish line. He was given a lift back to the pits in the back of an open topped Land Rover that just happened to be passing. Of course, it would have been against the rules to drive against the direction of racing, so the driver had to drive Mansell all the way round the track. When we (the crowd) realised what was happening we went wild with applause as we were getting a lap of honour. The track was temporarily invaded to get closer to our hero and I made the centre fold of Motor Sport that month as their photographer just happened to be there. Probably not the prettiest centre fold, but Mother liked it!!

Dave Tickle

David Tickle · 03-14-06, 10:29 AM

Anybody going to the Malaysian Grand Prix????

I'm working in Singapore at the moment and have booked a day trip to the GP with a colleague. It's a 6 hour coach trip each way, but worth it I think. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/banana.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/banana.gif[/img]
We will be in K1 Gold stand.

Now. If Kimi can start near the front of the grid and Jenson gets his a**e into gear and the car off the line then we could be up for some fun.

Dave Morton. Will you be there? If I see your Antennae rotating, I'll try to say hello again, but I don't expect to have much free time on this trip.

Dave Tickle

David Morton · 03-14-06, 03:49 PM

Hi Dave
You have a message
Dave

David Morton · 03-14-06, 04:59 PM

Fisicos engine is now back on the Dyno at Viry, near Paris
and the Renault engineers are looking at the defect he suffered in the race. He had a 50hp deficit until Hydraulic failure finished his race.
Because he retired, the rules say he can have a new engine in Sepang without penalty.

David Morton · 03-15-06, 03:36 AM

Re Wing mirrors. I asked Pat Symonds the question about the apparent flexing and this is the answer:
I suspect that part of what is being seen on the "in car" camera is an aliasing effect from high frequency vibration which is aliased by the 25 Hz TV signal.
Definitely not an aerodynamic aid!

DavidTC · 03-15-06, 03:47 AM

David
many thanks for the insightful feedback. Not quite sure I follow the aliasing argument. Why only the LHS mirror and why only Renault?.
David

David Morton · 03-15-06, 04:06 AM

David,
I'm not sure either but that was the answer.
David M

Pete. · 03-18-06, 03:25 AM

Well done Fisi. Go you good thing Mark, is Rosberg the next champ? Fuel loads will tell.. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/banana.gif[/img]

DavidTC · 03-18-06, 04:43 PM

The V8 engines seem to be less reliable than the V10's, we need to re-visit the earlier part of the thread where that view was questioned.
David

David Morton · 03-19-06, 04:47 AM

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David Morton · 03-19-06, 05:59 AM

David,
on the face of it, it would seem that the V8 is having problems. However it was a second race in high ambient temperatures for Alonso and apart from carrying 80L+ at the start and minor electrical gremlins ( F/Pump and sufficient amps) both the Renault cars were on good form.
OK Fisi was on a new unit but that will show if it's tired or not in Melbourne.
Maybe still to early in the season to evaluate anything
but on current evidence 2nd race engines that have done fast laps on 1st race seem to quite happily grenade themselves.ie Heidfeld's engine was used in Bahrein and Rosberg did the fastest lap also in Bahrein.
David M