Multiculturalism

[Pete McCluskey.]

I Don't know which side of the political fence CBN leans but this report is scary.
YouTube - Multiculturalisme et islam en France reportage de CBN

 

[Jason]

I Don't know which side of the political fence CBN leans but this report is scary.
YouTube - Multiculturalisme et islam en France reportage de CBN

A British politician warned of such possible consequences a long time ago (1968 to be precise). He was ridiculed and was sacked as a result of speaking his viewpoint: Rivers of Blood speech - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Grady]

The speech appropriately applies to other nations, including the US. I'll bookmark the location.

 

[Tom P]

I Don't know which side of the political fence CBN leans but this report is scary.
YouTube - Multiculturalisme et islam en France reportage de CBN

Funny, the left (and BO) would lead you to believe that they are a fun loving , peaceful people, and these are a radical fundamentalist group. It would appear that the radical fundamentalist are the only ones in these countries, they must have left all the fun loving, peaceful people back in the countries they came from. I've seen videos from cities in Michigan where this is a growing problem.

 

[Jim Craik]

Tom,

I have to think that you Bircher/Birther "sky is falling" folks look back on the days of the GREAT COMUNIST CONSPIACY as the "good old days"

Its a lot harder to scare everyone with this GREAT MUSLUM CONSPERACY stuff. But you keep trying!

 

[Tom P]

Tom,

I have to think that you Bircher/Birther "sky is falling" folks look back on the days of the GREAT COMUNIST CONSPIACY as the "good old days"

Its a lot harder to scare everyone with this GREAT MUSLUM CONSPERACY stuff. But you keep trying!

It looks as if you might need an eye exam, look at the news from the countries that were mentioned in the video, look at Dearborn Michigan. You have your head in the sand Jim.

 

[Jim Craik]

Tom,

Once again, I will try and explain to you how the media works.

This vidio that you believe to strongly in came from "The 700 Club".

Tom, I'm sure you know that the 700 Club is "The Pat Robertson" Christian Brodcasting network. You knew that RIGHT!

Guys, try thinking for your self!

Do you really think that you will get honest information about Muslums from the "Christian Braocasting Newtwork"??????


Tom, you say I have my head in the sand, we all know where your head is!

 

[Jack]

Multiculturalism
Never has worked regardless of the cultures involved IMO!
Never will work either. Look to the EU and see how that has worked for them.

 

[Jim Craik]

I Don't know which side of the political fence CBN leans but this report is scary.

Posted by Pete


Pete, I belive you,

I really want to think that you would not post an article about Muslums from the Pat Robertson "Christian Broadcasting Network". I really do!

Pete, putting in the disclamer was nice, but Google and 10 seconds would have shown you that this info was not to be believed!

Guys, in all fareness, please check what you are about to post! We would not want to misslead anyone, would we?

 

[Joey Dean]

This report coincides with my personal experience by actually being in many of the countries mentioned over the last 23 years of my job. Say what you will, but this is not biased regardless what side of the fence the report came from.

So, tell me how my eyewitness report is wrong?

 

[John Fitzpatrick]

Whether the source of the story is one you like or not doesn't seem to me to be the issue. It's whether the situation reported by the story is factual or not. I have been to Paris to visit a friend who lives there, and there really are areas that are suicide for a white Christian (or God forbid, a Jew) to go into. Contrarily, I know of no place in Paris a Muslim couldn't go and be safe.
You can argue the reasons for this as much as you like, but it is the reality of life there. Who reports it and what their agenda is for reporting it is a separate issue entirely. And I suppose whether or not the sky is falling depends on whether or not you've had acid thrown in your face.

 

[Jim Craik]

Here are some more quotes from Mr Robertson and the "Christian Broadcasting Network" are they true?

"Just like what Nazi Germany did to the Jews, so liberal America is now doing to the evangelical Christians. It's no different. It is the same thing. It is happening all over again. It is the Democratic Congress, the liberal-based media and the homosexuals who want to destroy the Christians. Wholesale abuse and discrimination and the worst bigotry directed toward any group in America today. More terrible than anything suffered by any minority in history." –Pat Robertson

"I would warn Orlando that you're right in the way of some serious hurricanes, and I don't think I'd be waving those flags in God's face if I were you, This is not a message of hate -- this is a message of redemption. But a condition like this will bring about the destruction of your nation. It'll bring about terrorist bombs; it'll bring earthquakes, tornadoes, and possibly a meteor." –Pat Robertson, on "gay days" at Disneyworld

"(T)he feminist agenda is not about equal rights for women. It is about a socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians." –Pat Robertson

"I know this is painful for the ladies to hear, but if you get married, you have accepted the headship of a man, your husband. Christ is the head of the household and the husband is the head of the wife, and that's the way it is, period." –Pat Robertson

 

[Joey Dean]

Jim,

Thread drift. I can copy and paste controversial comments from about anyone, but that has nothing to do with the current topic.

 

[Jim Craik]

Joey,

This thread was started by Pete posting a video from You Tube.

He went on to say "I Don't know which side of the political fence CBN leans but this report is scary".

I looked up CBN and it turns out it is Pat Robertsons "Christian Broadcasting Network"

John then posted "Whether the source of the story is one you like or not doesn't seem to me to be the issue. It's whether the situation reported by the story is factual or not".

John was saying that the question is if Pat Roberson and the CBN is a believable source.

I then posted several Pat Robertson Christian Broadcasting Network statements that are in my mind ABSURDLY UNTRUE. These statements put the believeability of Mr Robertson and the CBN into question.

Joey, if the thread was started with a question about how the CBN leans and if they are a believable source, then my post would be germane, would it not?

 

[Jim Rosenthal]

I work in a multicultural situation; a hospital where people are from all over the planet. It seems to work fine for us. We seem to get along alright.

 

[Jeff Young]

I doubt that, or rather, I think you are misreading the situation.

In Paris, the poor underclass consists in large part of Muslim immigrants from North Africa. It's the poverty that breeds the danger, not "multiculuralism."

It's no different than you taking a stroll in Watts or South Central or Southside of Chicago or Harlem with a Confederate battle flag on the back of your jacket.

What concerns ME the most is this incessant desire to convince ourselves that we are under siege from all Muslims who want to turn our countries into sharia-law based religious oligarchies. That certainly is the goal of a small number of Muslims, just like a small number of Christians would like to see Saudi Arabia convert to protestantism, etc.

But the vast majority of Muslims ARE peaceful, and live lives just like ours. President Bush knew this, so what is wrong with you guys?

Whether the source of the story is one you like or not doesn't seem to me to be the issue. It's whether the situation reported by the story is factual or not. I have been to Paris to visit a friend who lives there, and there really are areas that are suicide for a white Christian (or God forbid, a Jew) to go into. Contrarily, I know of no place in Paris a Muslim couldn't go and be safe.
You can argue the reasons for this as much as you like, but it is the reality of life there. Who reports it and what their agenda is for reporting it is a separate issue entirely. And I suppose whether or not the sky is falling depends on whether or not you've had acid thrown in your face.

 

[Pete McCluskey.]

Jim C, I think the question is, is it true or not that there are areas of Paris
that are no go zones for Christians and Jews or not. Toy and JC have both stated that from their personal experience that is the case.
I have no doubt that CBN probably has a bias towards Christians and against Muslims, but why would Toy and JC feel the need to be untruthful?

 

[Jeff Young]

Because they are confusing the reason why they feel threatened there -- poverty, anger, etc. rather than the "multiculturalism" or militant Muslim behavior they want to view as the cause.

This attempt by folks (including Pat Robertson) to make Islam the enemy rather than the small fringe terrorist groups who are Muslim is very, very troublesome to me. We are smarter than this guys. We really are. We know better than to do what people like Pat Robertson are trying to do.

 

[Ian K]

I doubt that, or rather, I think you are misreading the situation.

In Paris, the poor underclass consists in large part of Muslim immigrants from North Africa. It's the poverty that breeds the danger, not "multiculuralism."

It's no different than you taking a stroll in Watts or South Central or Southside of Chicago or Harlem with a Confederate battle flag on the back of your jacket.

I am not even sure the Confederate flag is necessary. But, I agree with what you are saying. It isn't (insert name of poor down-trodden culture here-ism here), but the poverty itself.

Ian

 

[Pat]

What concerns ME the most is this incessant desire to convince ourselves that we are under siege from all Muslims who want to turn our countries into sharia-law based religious oligarchies. That certainly is the goal of a small number of Muslims, just like a small number of Christians would like to see Saudi Arabia convert to protestantism, etc.

But the vast majority of Muslims ARE peaceful, and live lives just like ours. President Bush knew this, so what is wrong with you guys?

The difference is whether an ethnic group wishes to assimilate. Multiculturalism at its face advances that separation; segregation and resultant societal divide is somehow the best way to enhance western society. (Martin Luther King must be rolling over in his grave.) Those that have assimilated, such as the Asian and Indian Muslim populations in the U.S., are prosperous and average incomes and education far exceed the national average. Their presence here goes to back Colonial Times. They are as far as I can tell, great Americans.
However the dangerous elements that have been involved in so much of the violence seem to be in the more recent immigrants who have carried their anti-American sentiments with them. For example, the Egyptian cleric, Omar Abdel-Rahman is now serving a jail sentence for his involvement in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing. He had a long history of involvement with Islamist and jihadi groups before arriving in the U.S. It seems that most of the recent attacks (the 9/11 attacks, Shoe Bomber, Times Square Bomber, Ft Dix) fall into this category. Others like the Islamic Thinkers Society (a Muslim group based in New York City) seek the goal of restoring the Islamic Caliphate to create what they call "an ideal Islamic society." Doesn't seem like they are trying very hard to be good neighbors.