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7th April 2012, 07:37 AM
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Paul B
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44 Years Ago
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7th April 2012, 08:34 AM
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wealdenengineer
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Re: 44 Years Ago
And my all time hero, got picked up by him once when hitch hiking near his home in Duns, Scotland, very quiet unassuming farmer who picked up two teanagers miles from anywhere, never said a word about himself to us but I was just in awe of sitting beside my hero in a battered Land Rover, Frank,
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7th April 2012, 09:08 AM
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Mark IV
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Re: 44 Years Ago
I had the distinct honor of seeing him race once, the 1967 USGP at Watkins Glen where he won with the right rear wheel 'askew". I also secured his autograph at that event. It was a sad day in April when word of his accident and death came over the radio.
I wonder what he would think of some of the current drivers and their "prima donna" actions??????
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7th April 2012, 10:56 AM
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Did460
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Re: 44 Years Ago
I was working the Emergency Truck at an SCCA event @ Cotati when word spread. No one could believe it, I sure didn't.
A sad day - he was my hero.
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7th April 2012, 01:38 PM
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roaldin
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Re: 44 Years Ago
A driver who thoroughly deserves the respect he still gets.
My hero Jim.
R.I.P.
Frank, if my move to the U.K. happens I would love to buy you a drink and listen to that story.
Tim.
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7th April 2012, 05:16 PM
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Jim Craik
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Re: 44 Years Ago
Rick,
As I remember, that win at Watkins Glen was the only GP won by the incredably complicated BRM H16 motor, a three liter 16 cylinder, eight cam motor.
I was lucky enough to see Mr Clark at the first race I ever attended. It was at the 1963 or 1964 USRRC at Laguna Saca. He drove a beautiful, yet painfully slow Lotus 30.
RIP Jim Clark, thanks for the memories.
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7th April 2012, 06:29 PM
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Jim Craik
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Re: 44 Years Ago
David,
I thought I was the only person to remember The Golden Gate Raceway at Cotati. I attended what I think was the last race ever held there.
It was 1970 or 71, an SCCA Regonal race, I was crew for a very quick Cooper S, C Sedan.
It rained and we won. I remember taking a lap on the way out, the track was old, rough, overgrown, and kind of sad in the rain.
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7th April 2012, 07:24 PM
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Did460
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Re: 44 Years Ago
Yeah, old airfield that was rough and dangerous.
BTW, the only street GT40 I ever saw was there . . . .
I was "overseas" in '71--'72 and missed the fun.
cheers,
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Originally Posted by Jim Craik
David,
I thought I was the only person to remember The Golden Gate Raceway at Cotati. I attended what I think was the last race ever held there.
It was 1970 or 71, an SCCA Regonal race, I was crew for a very quick Cooper S, C Sedan.
It rained and we won. I remember taking a lap on the way out, the track was old, rough, overgrown, and kind of sad in the rain.
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7th April 2012, 08:23 PM
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Mark IV
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Re: 44 Years Ago
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Originally Posted by Jim Craik
Rick,
As I remember, that win at Watkins Glen was the only GP won by the incredably complicated BRM H16 motor, a three liter 16 cylinder, eight cam motor.
I was lucky enough to see Mr Clark at the first race I ever attended. It was at the 1963 or 1964 USRRC at Laguna Saca. He drove a beautiful, yet painfully slow Lotus 30.
RIP Jim Clark, thanks for the memories.
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Jim,
The 1967 Glen race was won by the Lotus 47 with the Ford/Cosworth 3.0 DFV V8. The "H16" BRM engine had been abandoned earlier in the season.
1967 United States Grand Prix - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Never the less, I can say say I saw Jimmy Clark race (and win!) in person. Damn, that makes me REALLY old!
Jimmy was one of the last of the "class act" drivers. Mr. Gurney is another from that era that has earned total respect and has not sullied his reputation.
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8th April 2012, 12:20 AM
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Jim Craik
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Re: 44 Years Ago
Rick,
The memory starts to go, mine and yours.
It seems that Jim Clark won the 1966 US GP in a Lotus 43 with the BRM H16, it's only win.
He won in 1967 in the Lotus "49" with the Cosworth.
The Lotus 47 was the Europa racer.
And finally Jimmy and Dan..........class act in spades!
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8th April 2012, 06:14 AM
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Mark IV
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Re: 44 Years Ago
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Rick,
The memory starts to go, mine and yours.
It seems that Jim Clark won the 1966 US GP in a Lotus 43 with the BRM H16, it's only win.
He won in 1967 in the Lotus "49" with the Cosworth.
The Lotus 47 was the Europa racer.
And finally Jimmy and Dan..........class act in spades!
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Jim,
Right YOU are.
What were we talking about? The good thing about Alzheimers is you meet so many new people everyday................
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9th April 2012, 08:15 AM
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Re: 44 Years Ago
Yes, and they know exactly what you like, and they are so friendly.
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9th April 2012, 08:17 AM
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Re: 44 Years Ago
There were a lot of gentleman drivers then, weren't there....more than there are now, I'm afraid. At least in the top ranks.
Even with his rather short career, Clark is still considered one of the all time great race drivers. some folks feel he might have proved to be the best ever, had he lived.
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15th May 2012, 12:00 PM
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Paul B
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Re: 44 Years Ago
Just came across a few old photos I took back in the 60s.
Jimmy (of course!), Bruce, Dan, Chris, Jo,
Those were the days you could get next to the track and with no fencing.....
Enjoy.
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15th May 2012, 12:26 PM
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Mesa
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Re: 44 Years Ago
That Gurney Eagle was beautiful for sure. Gotta (not) love those wanna-be roll hoops! It was tragic the rate which drivers were killed in that era. We look today and see how many world champions still racing in F1? (and we would have a few more had Schoomy not hogged 7 all to himself)
Back then you might be lucky to find that many world champions still alive (?)
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16th May 2012, 12:10 AM
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roaldin
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Re: 44 Years Ago
Er... What is happening with the driver in pic 4...?
Tim.
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16th May 2012, 02:08 AM
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Paul B
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Re: 44 Years Ago
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Er... What is happening with the driver in pic 4...?
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He is leaving the pits at Brands Hatch and he obviously felt he needed more than the information coming from his mirrors to make a safe exit.
The problem was that the exit was at an angle to the track, was on a rising slope and had a high pit wall making it difficult to see clearly what was happening on the pit straight.
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16th May 2012, 04:13 AM
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gusmo
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Re: 44 Years Ago
Sir Jack Brabham managed 3 championships, now thats cool!
Pity he has not such a large profile here in Oz.
Legend in my book.
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16th May 2012, 05:44 AM
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roaldin
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Re: 44 Years Ago
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He is leaving the pits at Brands Hatch and he obviously felt he needed more than the information coming from his mirrors to make a safe exit.
The problem was that the exit was at an angle to the track, was on a rising slope and had a high pit wall making it difficult to see clearly what was happening on the pit straight.
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Of course! Thanks.
And thanks for the wonderful pictures!
Tim.
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16th May 2012, 06:39 AM
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Paul B
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Re: 44 Years Ago
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Sir Jack Brabham managed 3 championships, now thats cool!
Pity he has not such a large profile here in Oz.
Legend in my book.
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Speaking of Jack, here is one of him from the 60s.
Along with a mini at Druids in typical pose!
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