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10-19-06, 09:21 PM
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| | gt40fran Sponsoring Vendor 
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| RCR917 MORE Teaser Pics.... A few pics to show the early progress of the 917.....we are further along now but you guys cant have it all at once....hahaha
These are pics of the second chassis being built .....from original prints no less and many many hours of research.
The chassis dimensions are a match to the original 917 chassis...
Also the body prior to being final surface sanded and more moulds being done....
Spectacular shape and as close to real as you can get...based on panels from David Pipers 917 chassis number 10
well done Brad...(RCR body and mould magician)
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RCR-40..Mk1, 2 and Mk4
RCR-70 Mk3b
RCR-70 Spider
RCR-P4
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RCR917
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10-19-06, 10:13 PM
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| | Pantera1889 Bronze Supporter 
Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Maryland,USA GT40: RCR MK1
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| Re: RCR917 Teaser Pics.... Unbelievable!!!
That is SO BAD ASS!!!
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10-20-06, 03:03 AM
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| | 10 tenths 
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| Re: RCR917 Teaser Pics.... Fran
Its looking good mate.
I just love triangles and round tube.
Chris. |
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10-20-06, 03:27 AM
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| | Russ Noble Lifetime Premier Supporter 
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| Re: RCR917 Teaser Pics.... Fran, that is magic. I love a "pure" spaceframe, they're a work of art. And in this case, you say, the same as the originals. Unfortunately spaceframe GT40's and T70's just aren't quite right but you've got to play the hand you're dealt. I'm looking forward to more pics of your progress.
Cheers
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10-20-06, 10:00 AM
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| | IanAnderson Gold Supporter 
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| Re: RCR917 Teaser Pics.... Anorack question
Are all the pipes drilled before welding and then pressure filled to ensure no cracks?
Whatever the answer it looks amazing!
Ian
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10-20-06, 10:39 AM
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| | Mark Worthington 10 tenths 
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| Re: RCR917 Teaser Pics.... I was wondering if the tubing is mild steel or something a little more exotic, like 4130. I was also wondering why there are two identical threads on this subject.
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Mark
RF Chassis No. 36 still under construction
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10-20-06, 12:17 PM
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| | gt40fran Sponsoring Vendor 
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| Re: RCR917 Teaser Pics.... The tubing is 4130 ....there is no reason to pressurise the tubes as this was only done to show cracks in the marginal original alloy chassis tubing...
Mark,
the reason for my double post is that some people dont always read each and every forum, as you pointed out in your reference to condensing the forum subgroups...and I would like to share the RCR917 progress with as many people as possible....
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RCR-40..Mk1, 2 and Mk4
RCR-70 Mk3b
RCR-70 Spider
RCR-P4
Superlite Coupe
Superlite Roadster...including Electrolite
RCR917
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10-20-06, 01:55 PM
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| | Doc Watson 5 Tenths 
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| Re: RCR917 Teaser Pics.... Damn! first the P4 and now the 917......... looks fantastic!!!!!
Andy |
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10-20-06, 04:25 PM
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| | petek 2 Tenths 
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| Re: RCR917 Teaser Pics.... Looking great! Set one aside for me (along with one of each of the GT40, T70, and P3).
Sooner or later I have to win the lottery!
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10-20-06, 05:59 PM
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| | YerDugliness Lifetime Premier Supporter 
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| Re: RCR917 Teaser Pics.... That chassis is a real work of art, Fran--and a departure from the monos you regularly produce. Incredible work! I tried to count all the triangulation and got lost 3 times. We're all sitting around with our tongues hanging out waiting for the next photos. Teaser.......right!
Doug
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10-20-06, 06:16 PM
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| | gt40fran Sponsoring Vendor 
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| Re: RCR917 Teaser Pics.... Sit tight....I never show my hand too early...
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RCR-70 Mk3b
RCR-70 Spider
RCR-P4
Superlite Coupe
Superlite Roadster...including Electrolite
RCR917
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10-20-06, 11:02 PM
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| | gt40pinhd Rookie 
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| Re: RCR917 Teaser Pics.... hey fran,
carl said he knows where you can get a real porsche engine for that 917. looks just like seinfelds i saw in his shop. simply awsome car. keep it up.
wes
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10-21-06, 02:29 AM
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| | CliffBeer CURRENTLY BANNED 
Join Date: May 2006 Location: Seattle, Washington GT40: CAV mono
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| Re: RCR917 Teaser Pics.... Fran, is the rear/frame set up for a SBF or a porsche engine? As I recall, the 917 engine was a boxer 12 of somewhat larger displacement than the 911 engine engine of the day (2.2ltr)...?? I can't remember how the horizontal fan was driven but probably not too difficult to replicate this somehow on a 3.0sc engine as a starting point. Related, it seems to me the fuel was supplied via tall stack mechanical FI - that'll be expensive to replicate. Webers or PMOs would probably look pretty similar and be relatively inexpensive.
Your 917 body looks great. Just watched "LeMans" a couple nights ago (for about the 10th time!) - lots of great 917 action in there as you probably know.
Incidentally, what's the $ for your 917 roller?
Thanks!
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10-21-06, 04:34 AM
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| | 3 Tenths 
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| Re: RCR917 Teaser Pics.... Magnificent work. I shall follow progress with great interest. One question Fran. Can the car be made road legal for the UK? I have heard that your feet end up forward of the front axle line which I believe would fail SVA. |
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10-21-06, 11:01 AM
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| | gt40fran Sponsoring Vendor 
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| Re: RCR917 Teaser Pics.... The 917 engine(912 designation) has a bevel gear driven fan, this gear is located half way along the crankshaft.
This location also serves as the input drive to the transaxle which has a shaft running back under the crank centerline to the transaxle.....this was done to reduce the torsional load on the long crankshaft.
Our chassis will obviously take a 12cyl engine and transaxle should you happed to have a spare 350-500k usd to buy one.....ouch.
We also have the mounts for the 6 cyl Porsche engines....
The transaxle we are using is a 930 4 speed unit ...originals were primarily 4 speed also.
The reason for this transaxle is that the ring gear can be flipped and the box will still bolt directly to the Porsche engine with no major welding/adapter plate/machining .
At present the car will only be offered as a TK minus and will retail at approx $100k.....
I am not concerned with SVA on this car as we are building it as close as we can and that also means all the bad stuff like a small cockpit and low groundclearance......the beauty of this car is its purity and we want to keep that intact...sorry.
I envisage these cars being track car for the most part due to the restrictions its design involves.....
Hope this helps...
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RCR-40..Mk1, 2 and Mk4
RCR-70 Mk3b
RCR-70 Spider
RCR-P4
Superlite Coupe
Superlite Roadster...including Electrolite
RCR917
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10-21-06, 05:57 PM
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| | JhnC40 A Tenth 
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| Re: RCR917 Teaser Pics.... Congratulations Fran.
A masterpiece in its original design and your (re) construction. Earlier postings talk in terms of a work of art. It so happens I have in my study close by me Nicholas Watts' framed limited edition signed print - The Power & The Glory - A Tribute. This represents a tribute to the inspired duals between the Porsche 917's and Ferrari 512's. To the men who raced them and to the man whose passion and persistence gave us the film 'Le Mans' - Steve McQueen.
We can't wait to see more pictures.
Regards.
John.
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10-22-06, 08:40 PM
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| | Sandy Gulf GT40 
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| Re: RCR917 Teaser Pics.... Fran -
That is coming out hot!
Look forward to the build thread
Sandy
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10-22-06, 09:31 PM
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| | Lifetime Premier Supporter 
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| Re: RCR917 Teaser Pics.... Fran, your automotive talents, attention to detail and passion for the cars you create and build is to be envied by the competition. The chassis and body are spectacular. I concur in the sentiments of the other forum members who posted but want to highlight something that no one else has mentioned. Not only is the car a thing of beauty, but you were savvy enough to recognize the start of the holiday season and frost the windshield. Will you be displaying the body on your lawn as a Christmas decoration? I promise that I will not swing by and steal, I mean borrow it. |
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10-23-06, 07:51 PM
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| | gt40fran Sponsoring Vendor 
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| Re: RCR917 MORE Teaser Pics Just a few more for you....
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RCR-70 Mk3b
RCR-70 Spider
RCR-P4
Superlite Coupe
Superlite Roadster...including Electrolite
RCR917
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10-23-06, 07:57 PM
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| | gt40fran Sponsoring Vendor 
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| Re: RCR917 Teaser Pics.... Just for fun......I LOVE IT!!!!!!
ALSO....
A BIG thanks to all the guys working on the RCR917 project....
Brad,Graham,Jim and Russ.....by far our most challenging project yet.....
__________________ FRAN HALL replica manufacturer.....
RCR-40..Mk1, 2 and Mk4
RCR-70 Mk3b
RCR-70 Spider
RCR-P4
Superlite Coupe
Superlite Roadster...including Electrolite
RCR917
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