MK-I MK-II MK-III MK-IV GULF MIRAGE J-CAR LOLA
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07-13-06, 05:08 AM
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| | 4 Tenths 
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Looks like Adrian Newey has a tyre blow coming into chicane at 180mph !!!!!! What a tragedy. Driver is ok apparently. | 
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07-13-06, 05:28 AM
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| | John W 6 Tenths 
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Rep Power: 11 | that'll polish out 
It is sad to see that happen to such a nice car. At least it was being used though, rather than rusting away in a museum. I'm sure it'll get rebuilt.
Look at the cills - I wonder if the fuel cells split ??
I also heard another car caught fire on the Mulsane straight, burning the drivers face in the process. Which car was that ? | |
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07-13-06, 07:31 AM
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| | roy snook 3 Tenths
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07-13-06, 08:07 AM
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| | Keith1 10 tenths
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Rep Power: 25 | Wow, that was good car too. Hope they do rebuild it. 180 mph? Can't quite see, but don't those fronts look like a street style tread? 
Perhaps they're racing wets, but i didn't think it was wet at CLM, if they were street tyres, perhaps 180 mph was a tad too optimistic.
Glad Adrian's OK.
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07-13-06, 09:04 AM
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| | Russ Noble Lifetime Premier Supporter 
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Rep Power: 20 | Yeah, it's hard to tell, but wouldn't it be more likely Avon or Dunlop period race tyres. Remember this is the pre-slicks era. I would be highly surprised if a man of his experience would be on unsuitable tyres.
No extra roll protection in his car then? I doubt you'd see modern rollover cage so badly deformed. Mind you depends on the hit I suppose.
John W raised the fuel tank issue, I'd be interested to hear about that too.
Good to hear drivers OK.
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07-13-06, 09:21 AM
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| | 10 tenths 
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here is a close up of his tyres
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07-13-06, 10:27 AM
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| | Ron Earp Site Administrator
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Rep Power: 54  | Is that 600 or 500 lb springs on there.... | |
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07-13-06, 11:05 AM
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| | IanAnderson Gold Supporter
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Rep Power: 17 | Such a shame to see on e of the originals damaged like this but as John says better it was being used then left to rust away.
Perhaps the car needs to go to Franco Sparro for the repair - Adrian could then choose from 3 originals (all with papers) to race!
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07-13-06, 12:25 PM
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Generally an original race car would run 600lbs on the front and surprisingly around 450lbs to 475lbs on the rear.
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07-13-06, 02:14 PM
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Rep Power: 5 | 1062 had a cockpit fire burning the face of driver Hugenholtz who chooses not to wear a full face helmet. He was hospitalised. | |
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07-13-06, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by IanAnderson Such a shame to see on e of the originals damaged like this but as John says better it was being used then left to rust away.
Perhaps the car needs to go to Franco Sparro for the repair - Adrian could then choose from 3 originals (all with papers) to race!
Ian | On Frank Sbarro....one of his 'specials' ..1040 was wthdrawn from a Paris auction a few weeks ago at 600,000 Euros......
Apparently the owner of the true 1040 intervened.....watch this space !! | |
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07-13-06, 02:18 PM
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| | Malcolm Gold Supporter
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| Those tyres look like period Dunlop L or M tyres to me. It is a requirement to run them even though drivers are not that keen on them.
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07-13-06, 05:15 PM
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| | Keith1 10 tenths
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Originally Posted by IanAnderson
Perhaps the car needs to go to Franco Sparro for the repair - Adrian could then choose from 3 originals (all with papers) to race!
Ian |
The report says that the tyre blew after it hit the barrier - the car just snapped right unexpectedly.
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07-14-06, 02:22 AM
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| | BenL 6 Tenths
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Originally Posted by Keith1 The report says that the tyre blew after it hit the barrier - the car just snapped right unexpectedly. | Somewhere I read that at race speeds, that sometimes a car with a puncture won't be noticable until after hard braking. | |
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07-14-06, 02:23 AM
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| | BenL 6 Tenths
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Originally Posted by Keith1 The report says that the tyre blew after it hit the barrier - the car just snapped right unexpectedly. | Somewhere I read that at race speeds, that sometimes a tire with a puncture won't be noticable until after hard braking. | |
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07-14-06, 03:28 AM
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| | wealdenengineer 10 tenths
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Rep Power: 17 | Most, if not all, GT40s I saw at LM, except this one, were running on Goodyear Blue Streaks. | |
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07-14-06, 04:43 AM
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| | John W 6 Tenths
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Rep Power: 11 | Nice pics Chris.
Interesting to see he is running modern dampers (Konis) and springs (Eibachs). I'm surprised that is allowed in historic racing, yet brakes and tyres have to remain the correct vintage...
I was going to suggest you sent him the pictures, but he might have a sense of humour failure 
Incidentally, the roll bar issue. I beleive they were only fitted to the mkIIs and then to the later mkI cars, and then only if the teams requested them.
I wonder who looks after this car normaly, and who will get the repair job. Could be out of action for a while I think... | |
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07-14-06, 04:49 AM
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| | 10 tenths
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Rep Power: 23 | Hi John
Lanzante looks after Mr Newey's P1010, however I would speculate that Andy at Gelscoe will probably get the repair job for the tub.
Sorry I missed you at the Classic.
regards
Chris
Last edited by Chris Melia; 07-14-06 at 07:19 AM.
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07-16-06, 10:22 AM
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| | RichardH 2 Tenths
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Nice piccies of the front Disk cooling system too. How are they mounted? Do any of the road cars use this or isnt it necessary?
ps you guys might like to see this - parked in error by the marshals on Thursday........ not that I am complaining - next to 1010 | |
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07-16-06, 02:46 PM
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| | Malcolm Gold Supporter
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| So which is yours??????? These kind of pictures are fun!
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